Welcome to Dun & Done. I'm Alicia, your hostess on this podcast journey, All Things Dominic

Dunn, but hopefully you know that, and instead are asking, hey, Alicia, it's not Dunn Day. It's Wednesday,

what gives? Today, investigators, I have a fun little crossover bonus for you that answers the question laid out in

the two Mrs. Grenvilles, who is Babette Van Deegan? And not necessarily a plot point for our most

recent coverage of the Woodward case, but holy cats, Babette is the character portrayal in fictional form of the real-life Barbara Sears Rockefeller,

known affectionately as Bobo, and it is the most amazing story you might not know.

Big love to y'all, hope you dig it.

Stay curious, Keep on investigating.

See you, Monday, friends, for a whole new theme. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Trashy Divorces.

Trashy Breakups Edition midweek.

My name is Stacey and Alicia, you have a crossover.

I do.

I have a crossover.

This week, it's just a story that's too delightfully good not to share with everybody. It's a crossover with

done and done. And honestly, it's normally pretty clear when I do all of my trashy investigations,

which side of the podcast fence the story needs to go to. But this one, holy cats. It has everything

for both. Happy bonus. Trashy Dund Day. So within Dun &

in the last few weeks, we have been looking at the fact and the fiction about the 195 death

of Billy Woodward, done by his wife, Anne. This is the shooting of the century. We've talked

about Billy's mom, Elsie Woodward, the Grand Dom of New York Society.

This is all within the sordid tale that becomes the basis for Dominic Dunn's, Romana Clay,

1985 novel The Two Mrs. Grenville's.

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