30YearsWar: #5 - 'The Triumphs of Peace'

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

Phd, International Relations, Korean War, European History, 17th Century, 18th Century, Politics, 20th Century, Thirty Years' War, History, 19th Century, War, First World War

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🗓️ 5 February 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Talk about triumphs, how much of a triumph would it be if little old Zack could be an Amazon best-seller? You can make it happen! Matchlock is a historical fiction series set during the Thirty Years' War, beginning in 1622, when Matthew Lock lands in Europe to investigate the brutal murder of his parents.

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War wasn’t good for everything in the early 17th century, and nowhere was this more evident than in the spate of peace treaties which were signed between Spain and its enemies during the years 1598-1609. Spain went from at war with, to at peace with, its three primary enemies in the space of little more than a decade, and I think it’s time we examined why! Such a task isn’t possible without first looking at where the most dominant of these conflicts – that of the Dutch War – first came from. We go a bit deeper into the history of the Dutch revolt here, and assess how a lucrative corner of Spain’s Empire went onto become the greatest pain in Madrid’s backside.

What began as the Burgundian Netherlands had split into North and South, Dutch and Spanish, loyal and rebellious, by 1609, but the conflict had dragged on relentlessly since the 1560s, so it was little wonder that some inclinations towards peace were pursued. Here we are introduced to the logic behind a temporary peace with one’s enemies, as well as the family charged with taking the fight to the Spanish in the first place, the House of Orange. This semi-royal House started off as a source of loyal Spanish governors for Madrid, but had been transformed into stadtholders – agents of rebellion and military reform, with talents that surpassed and ruined all Spanish expectations. Orange and the Dutch henceforth were inseparable, much like the two Habsburg branches.

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0:00.0	You're listening to When Diplomacy Fails' series on the Thirty Years' War. This is episode five.
0:20.8	Music This is episode 5. Charles V, only Roman emperor, King of Spain, and Grand Duke of Burgundy, was not the only individual to abdicate from his numerous titles in the year 1555.
0:53.4	His sister, Mary, the widower of the King of Hungary,
0:57.2	and the regent of the Burgundian Netherlands region since the early 1500s, and also determined
1:02.5	upon her brother's abdication to resign her position too. She gave the following justification
1:08.2	for her decision, anticipating the very difficult relationship
1:12.0	which Mary's nephew Philip, and Charles' son Philip, the King of Spain, was soon to endure
1:17.9	with the Burgundian Netherlands. Mary wrote to her brother Charles that,
1:25.9	All states, under the obedience of a prince, should desire above all that he should be most
1:31.2	wise and virtuous. Yet I would say that a person who governs under a prince must be wiser
1:36.8	than the prince himself, who, governing for himself, has to render account only to God.
1:42.8	But he who governs under another must not only render account to God, but also to the prince
1:48.2	and to his subjects.
1:49.7	Apart from the consultations, all governors have to engage in, here in the Netherlands, one
1:55.0	has to gain everyone's goodwill, nobles as well as commons, for this country does not render
2:00.7	the obedience which is due to a monarchy,
2:02.6	nor to an oligarchic regime, nor even to a republic.
2:07.6	And a woman, especially a widow, finds this very difficult to cope with.
2:12.6	For a woman, whatever her status, is never respected and feared like a man.
2:16.6	If things went wrong in war,
2:19.2	one is given the fault, for people hate to have to give from their property as is necessary in
2:24.9	such times. I could write a volume listing all the difficulties. I would not desire to go
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