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The New Evangelicals Podcast

309. TNE RESPONDS: Eric Metaxas Doesn’t Know Sh*t About Dietrich Bonhoeffer

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2024

⏱️ 123 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, host Tim engages in a deep conversation with Tripp Fuller about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, his theological journey, and the misuse of his legacy by modern Christian nationalists. They explore Bonhoeffer's resistance to the Nazi regime, the role of the church during that time, and the implications for today's political climate, particularly in relation to the rise of authoritarianism and the rhetoric of figures like Eric Metaxas. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding history to navigate current challenges in faith and society. In this conversation, Tim and Tripp explore the intersections of culture, politics, and faith, particularly focusing on the role of the church in contemporary society. They discuss the misuse of historical figures like Bonhoeffer in modern evangelical rhetoric, the cultural comparisons made by political figures, and the implications of a persecution complex within white evangelicalism. The dialogue emphasizes the need for a re-evaluation of faith that prioritizes love and justice over political power, advocating for a 'religionless Christianity' that aligns with the teachings of Christ. Highlights: 01:01 Understanding Dietrich Bonhoeffer 12:50 The Rise of Christian Nationalism 26:49 The Role of the Church in Nazi Germany 39:08 Bonhoeffer's Legacy and Modern Implications 54:56 Eric Metaxas and Misinterpretation of Bonhoeffer 01:01:45 Cultural Comparisons and Historical Contexts 01:04:11 The Role of the Church in Society 01:10:52 Bonhoeffer's Legacy and Misinterpretations 01:16:28 The Misuse of Historical Analogies 01:25:11 The Persecution Complex in Evangelicalism 01:30:05 The Contradictions of White Evangelicalism 01:35:17 Bonhoeffer's Transformation and the Call to Action 01:40:52 The Invitation to a New Understanding of Faith _______________________________ Come to the LIVE EVENT in Austin, TX | Democracy at Risk REGISTER TO VOTE If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Get Tickets to Beer Camp (PROMO: TNEHOBBIT) Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to the new Evangelicals Podcast.

0:03.2

Hey everyone,

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Hey everyone, and everyone, welcome to the new Evangelicals response.

0:16.4

I'm Tim, the host of this segment.

0:18.3

Join us every Wednesday as we respond to commentary on the pressing issues of our day,

0:23.7

offering a thoughtful response rooted in love, justice, inclusivity,

0:27.6

and of course, non-dehumanization.

0:29.5

Let's get into it.

0:30.4

What's up? it.

0:35.0

What's up friends? Welcome back.

0:36.0

Happy Wednesday to all of you.

0:38.0

On this T&E response episode,

0:40.0

I'm pulling a live I did with my friend Trip Fuller on Dydrich Bonhoeffer and the way Christian Nationalists completely

0:48.7

misuse him for their own Nationalist agenda.

0:52.2

This is actually such a key conversation

0:54.9

because once again, history has their receipts.

0:58.1

And I think a lot of us grew up in this head space

1:00.6

of Bonhoeffer's really great and really helpful.

1:03.5

And then we saw people like Eric Mataxus, take Bonhoeffer, claimed to be an expert about

1:08.2

him, and then use him as proof that Bonhoeffer would somehow be in favor of MAGA.

1:14.3

It makes no sense.

1:15.2

So one thing I love to do is I love bringing on credible

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