Mac Power Users, episode 309, MPU Live or February 27, 2016. Hello everyone this is David Sparks along with my pal Katie Floyd.

Hi Katie how are you today?

Hey David I'm great. Thanks everybody for joining us on kind of an odd day,

those of you who are with us live in the chat room

and accommodating our wacky schedule.

Yeah, we moved it around a little bit.

There's goingsons, but we are doing MPU live, it is Saturday morning, and we have a guest

with us today. Welcome to the show, Dan Frakes. Thank you for having me.

Dan was, I don't know why we haven't had you yet. I mean, we should have.

I, it feels like I, it feels like I, I have been on before.

Let's just, let's say that. You've been around a long time, I've been around a long time I've been around a long time let's pretend I've been a long time let's pretend I've been on a bunch of times.

Yeah.

Dan was kind of enough to invite David and I to come present at a few panels back when Dan was at Macworld.

And now you are at one of my other favorite sites, which is the wire cutter, which is kind of

the definitive guide for tech and other fun things because it's not exclusively

tech you guys have some interesting guides but other fun things that you should

buy you kind of do a an all-inclusive it's kind of like consumer reports but for fun stuff.

Yeah, we like to say we're kind of the modern consumer reports, but keeping in mind that we actually love the Consumer Reports people too.

So we actually know them, they know us, and we're just sort of the online consumer reports, I guess.

Right.

You know, a lot of people say that when the wire cutter does a write-up, they just buy whatever the recommendation is.

I recently was looking for a thermus and I said, you know, I'm just going to go over and see what the

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