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The Peter Attia Drive

#309 ‒ AI in medicine: its potential to revolutionize disease prediction, diagnosis, and outcomes, causes for concern in medicine and beyond, and more | Isaac Kohane, M.D., Ph.D.

The Peter Attia Drive

Peter Attia, MD

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Fitness

4.77.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2024

⏱️ 115 minutes

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Isaac "Zak" Kohane, a pioneering physician-scientist and chair of the Department of Biomedical Informatics at Harvard Medical School, has authored numerous papers and influential books on artificial intelligence (AI), including The AI Revolution in Medicine: GPT-4 and Beyond. In this episode, Zak explores the evolution of AI, from its early iterations to the current third generation, illuminating how it is transforming medicine today and unlocking astonishing possibilities for the future. He shares insights from his unconventional journey and early interactions with GPT-4, highlighting significant AI advancements in image-based medical specialties, early disease diagnosis, and the potential for autonomous robotic surgery. He also delves into the ethical concerns and regulatory challenges of AI, its potential to augment clinicians, and the broader implications of AI achieving human-like creativity and expertise.

We discuss:

  • Zak’s unconventional journey to becoming a pioneering physician-scientist, and his early interactions with GPT-4 [2:15];
  • The evolution of AI from the earliest versions to today’s neural networks, and the shifting definitions of intelligence over time [8:00];
  • How vast data sets, advanced neural networks, and powerful GPU technology have driven AI from its early limitations to achieving remarkable successes in medicine and other fields [19:00];
  • An AI breakthrough in medicine: the ability to accurately recognize retinopathy [29:00];
  • Third generation AI: how improvements in natural language processing significantly advanced AI capabilities [32:00];
  • AI concerns and regulation: misuse by individuals, military applications, displacement of jobs, and potential existential concerns [37:30];
  • How AI is enhancing image-based medical specialties like radiology [49:15];
  • The use of AI by patients and doctors [55:45];
  • The potential for AI to augment clinicians and address physician shortages [1:02:45];
  • The potential for AI to revolutionize early diagnosis and prediction of diseases: Alzheimer’s disease, CVD, autism, and more [1:08:00];
  • The future of AI in healthcare: integration of patient data, improved diagnostics, and the challenges of data accessibility and regulatory compliance [1:17:00];
  • The future of autonomous robotic surgery [1:25:00];
  • AI and the future of mental health care [1:31:30];
  • How AI may transform and disrupt the medical industry: new business models and potential resistance from established medical institutions [1:34:45];
  • Potential positive and negative impacts of AI outside of medicine over the next decade [1:38:30];
  • The implications of AI achieving a level of creativity and expertise comparable to exceptional human talents [1:42:00];
  • Digital immortality and legacy: the potential to emulate an individual's personality and responses and the ethical questions surrounding it [1:45:45];
  • Parting thoughts [1:50:15]; and
  • More.

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forward slash subscribe. My guess this week is Isaac Coehan who goes by

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Zach. Zach is a physician scientist and chair of the Department of

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biomedical informatics at Harvard Medical School, and he's an

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Associate Professor of Medicine at the Brigham Women's Hospital.

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Zach has published several hundred papers in the medical literature and authored the

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widely used books, micro-errays for Integrative Genomics and the AI Revolution in Medicine,

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GPT4 and Beyond. He is also the editor-in-chief of the newly launched New England Journal of Medicine AI.

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In this episode, we talk about the evolution of AI.

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It wasn't really clear to me until we did this interview

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that we're really in the third generation of AI.

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And Zach has been a part of both the second and obviously the current generation.

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