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The Addicted Mind Podcast

307: The Art of Recovery and Finding Purpose Beyond Addiction With Judy Grisel

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Health & Fitness, Medicine, Mental Health

4.8621 Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Renowned behavioral neuroscientist Judy Grisel joins us for an eye-opening conversation on addiction and recovery. Judy shares her compelling journey from grappling with substance abuse as a young teenager to becoming a leading expert in addiction neuroscience. Her book, "Never Enough: The Neuroscience and Experience of Addiction," seamlessly intertwines her personal experiences with scientific insights, offering a nuanced understanding of how addictive personalities can harbor hidden potential.

We examine the shortcomings of punitive measures in addressing substance abuse, advocating instead for the power of positive incentives in recovery. Through vivid stories, we illustrate how individuals transform their addictive tendencies into remarkable achievements and societal contributions. By focusing on the enrichment that comes with sober living, we emphasize the importance of novelty and excitement as vital components in breaking free from addiction's grip and building meaningful lives.

 In this episode, you will hear:

  • Judy Grisel's journey from substance abuse to becoming a renowned neuroscientist.
  • Exploration of her book "Never Enough: The Neuroscience and Experience of Addiction."
  • The inefficacy of punitive measures and the benefits of positive incentives in recovery.
  • The role of adolescent identity development in addiction vulnerability.
  • Discussion of gender differences in stress sensitivity and addiction.
  • The impact of novelty-seeking and dopamine on addictive behaviors.
  • Strategies for building a meaningful life beyond addiction.

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Addicted Mind podcast. My name's Dwayne Austerlund. I'm your host,

0:10.0

and we are on to another episode. Today, my guest is Judy Griselle. Judy's research on the use

0:17.0

and abuse of recreational drugs began during adolescence. And after hitting bottom and getting

0:22.8

clean and sober in her 20s, she went on to earn a doctorate in behavioral neuroscience. Judy is an

0:29.4

internationally recognized behavioral neuroscientist and a professor of psychology at Bucknell

0:35.3

University with expertise in pharmacology genetics, whose research

0:40.3

focused on determining root causes of drug addiction. And in 2019, Judy published a best-selling

0:46.3

book, Never Enough, The Neuroscience and Experience of Addiction, which has since garnered a worldwide

0:51.5

audience. Now, Judy attributes much of her success in recovery and in neuroscience to many of the same

0:57.8

attributes that give rise to her disordered drug use in the first place.

1:02.7

Judy's going to talk about that.

1:04.2

She's going to talk about some of the brain science behind drug abuse, substance abuse.

1:10.2

She's going to talk about her own story and how that informed

1:14.1

her research into drug addiction and into the neuroscience behind drug addiction. I think you're

1:21.6

going to get a lot out of this episode. It was great talking to Judy. I just really appreciated it.

1:26.2

You can tell that she's really dug into this and

1:29.2

really thought about this. And I think it's just a great conversation. So stay tuned for that.

1:34.6

If you're getting a lot out of the Addicted Mind podcast, please rate and review us in whatever

1:39.3

podcast app you're using right now. I really appreciate it. It means a lot to us. It helps the podcast

1:44.6

get found. I also want to mention that we have started the Addicted Mind community.

1:50.4

If you are looking for a place to work on your recovery with like-minded people who are

1:56.7

working hard to be their best selves, think about joining the Addictive Mind community.

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