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#307 - Iranian Dissident on Israel, Bill Clinton’s Miss & Overthrowing Regime | Roya Hakakian

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

Comedy

4.6649 Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 179 minutes

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SPONSORS: 1) GhostBed: Use Code "JULIAN" to get 10% off your new GhostBed Mattress https://ghostbed.com/julian Stream "Getting Older" by Sydney Ruth:Apple: https://open.spotify.com/track/3qG9MtWQWmmq2hdGufuR3j PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey (***TIMESTAMPS in Description Below) ~ Roya Hakakian is an Iranian American Jewish journalist, lecturer, and writer. Born in Iran, she came to the United States as a refugee and is now a naturalized citizen. She is the author of several books, including an acclaimed memoir in English called "Journey from the Land of No," "Assassins of the Turquoise Palace," and "A Beginner's Guide to America." ROYA's LINKS: X: https://x.com/RoyaTheWriter BOOK 1: https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Land-No-Girlhood-Revolutionary/dp/0609810308 BOOK 2: https://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Turquoise-Palace-Roya-Hakakian/dp/0802145973 FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 0:00 - Escaping Iran in the 70’s, Ayatollah Takeover 7:25 - Tehran US Embassy Hostage Crisis, Shah of Iran Reign 17:55 - Marxist & Fascist Iranian Revolution, Hamas/Israel Protests Today, Iran Protests 30:21 - Children growing into terror motives, Israel’s POV, Palestinian Suffering 40:25 - Jewish Exodus from Europe to Israel, History of Israel, Uganda Zion, Escaping Iran 50:32 - Roya’s Father (9/11 Story), Israel & Palestinian Failed 2 State Solution, Kurds 1:07:54 - Israel Strategy, Bill Clinton Peace Agreement, Sadam Hussein Debacle, Water Protests 1:18:53 - AI Future w/ Wars, Iranian Regime vs US Political Machine 1:22:01 - Why Iran Wins Propaganda War, Neglect of Domestic Issues 1:28:45 - Middle East Democracy Failure Debate, Women’s Rights in Middle East 1:33:04 - Global Interconnection, Threats Spreading 1:43:37 - Roya’s CIA Story 1:51:48 - Isolationists vs War Hawks, Democracy vs Tyranny 2:00:21 - State of World Since 1950s, Historical Revisionism 2:15:22 - Worst American Crisis, Steven Pinker 2:20:21 - 1979 Iranian Revolution, Moment Roya turned on Iranian Revolution 2:36:09 - Escaping Iran to America, Jewish history in Iran 2:47:08 - Solution to Israel/Palestine Conflict 2:55:41 - Roya’s work CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - In-Studio Producer: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 307 - Roya Hakakian Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

In a world where we are all surrounded by tyrannical regimes, democracy is under assault.

0:05.4

This is how history takes shape.

0:07.6

When the war between Iran and Iraq was going on, Ayatollah Khomeini gives a major speech,

0:13.4

and he says, how lucky we are that this war started, because now we can all do what we are meant to do,

0:20.3

which is to become martyrs.

0:21.6

September of 1980, Saddam Hussein sees Iran, warrenu, attacks Iran.

0:26.6

Do you know what it says?

0:27.6

My leader is the 13-year-old who straps grenades to his back, throws himself under the way of Iraqi tanks, and becomes a martyr.

0:36.6

There was this 13-year-old who did that.

0:38.9

What happens?

0:39.8

Generation after generation of people who think that to be a good citizen is to blow yourself up.

0:45.5

And I think we're in another major crisis.

0:48.6

We can sit here and agree that Israel is inflicting suffering upon Palestinians in Gaza.

0:54.6

Of course it is.

0:55.5

What is getting left out of this discussion is...

1:00.0

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1:02.5

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1:05.0

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1:06.4

Thank you.

1:06.8

Thank you.

1:13.6

Roya, thank you so much for coming in last minute. I really appreciate it.

1:20.6

My pleasure.

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