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Hello! And welcome to my favorite murder.

That's Georgia Hard Start. That's Karen Kilgarif. And this is the Christmas holiday season.

That's right. Hanukkah has long gone. That was like, didn't it start in November?

November until December 6th. It was such a bummer when I was a kid when this would happen.

Because it was like too close to Thanksgiving. It was just like over so quickly and then everyone

was still being festive. Yes. And then, but it was kind of nice to have nothing to do during

the Christmas break. Oh, that's true. No parties or anything. No parties and no. I mean,

do you worry about gift giving the way people do for Christmas? Some people do. I don't eat, no.

I'm not a big holiday gift person. Like, we don't really do it much as adults. It's for the kids.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Like, my mom will give a pair of slippers or something like a bathrobe or

something cozy, but you save it all for Purim. That's right. Hard Purim. Hard Purim. Now, we'll do like

gift cards or whatever, but I were just not that big on it. Yeah. I think for Christmas, we used to be

because I think my mom had such a bad childhood that she always was just like, look everyone,

you have themed gift areas or whatever. I think need to make it big and exciting because I didn't

have that. Yeah. And make up for stuff. Which was fine, but we were so spoiled. You know,

it was just kind of like, I didn't get the bits I want. There was a lot of that attitude that I

mischamed about now. Yeah. But then once, when my after my mom died, it was very perfunctory and

we just for each other, yeah, we would just get what we could get and keep it up, but only kind of

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