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🗓️ 2 June 2025
⏱️ 192 minutes
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0:00.0 | Thank you, Dr. Epstein for being here. I appreciate coming all over from San Diego. |
0:11.2 | I'm excited to talk to you, and you showed me your, this is your monograph, this is new? |
0:16.5 | That's coming out. That's currently under peer review, but that's... |
0:19.6 | Oh, it's under peer review, okay. |
0:20.6 | That summarizes 12 years of research that my team and I have done on Google and other tech companies |
0:28.8 | and their ability to influence elections and indoctrinate children and affect our opinions, our thinking, our attitudes, our purchases, |
0:40.7 | you name it. So that's like the summary of the whole thing. How long have you been working on |
0:47.2 | that? How long have you been putting that together? More than 12 years now. Oh, wow. That's fascinating. |
0:52.8 | Yeah. Amazing. For people who aren't familiar, how did you, |
0:57.2 | with your background, get so into this world of Google and the curation of the content |
1:04.5 | that goes on Google and YouTube and all this stuff and how it manipulates the human mind, |
1:09.4 | culture, elections, everything. |
1:11.8 | Well, I was trained as a research psychologist at Harvard. |
1:14.9 | I was actually B.F. Skinner's last doctoral student. |
1:18.6 | And some people don't know just how broad psychology is. |
1:22.9 | It's really broad. |
1:24.4 | And one of the areas that the psychologists that research psychologist study is called |
1:28.8 | influence. So you've probably heard of a best-selling book called The Nudge about how you can |
1:36.3 | just do subtle kinds of things and that will alter people's behavior. And so you've heard of |
1:43.9 | probably the Stanford prison experiments or the obedience experiments |
1:50.1 | that were done at Yale. |
1:51.2 | All that is studying influence, how you can influence people. |
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