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#305 Robert Caro on power, poverty, ruthlessness, & obsession

Founders

David Senra

History, Entrepreneurship, Business, Technology

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

What I learned from reading Working by Robert Caro.  ---- Listen to one of my favorite podcasts: Invest Like the Best: Sam Hinkie: Find Your People  ---- [3:40] You can't get very deep into Johnson's life without realizing that the central fact of his life was his relationship with his father. [8:00] It was the hill country and his father's failures that taught him how terrible could be the consequences of a single mistake. [8:45] Lyndon Johnson wouldn't understand. He would refuse to understand. He would threaten you, would cajole you, bribe you or charm you. He would do whatever he had to do, but he would get that vote. [9:00] What mattered to him was winning because he knew what losing could be. What its consequences could be. [9:50] Robert Caro books I've read:  The Power Broker  The Path to Power Means of Ascent Master of The Senate (currently reading)  [11:00] About what I wanted to do with my life and my books (which are my life) [11:40] I am a reflection of what I do. — Steve Jobs [23:20] There are certain moments in your life when you suddenly understand something about yourself. I loved going through those files, making them yield up their secrets to me. [24:10] Turn every page. Never assume anything. Turn every goddamn page. [27:50] Robert Caro snaps: No, that's not why highways get built where they get built. They get built there because Robert Moses wants them there. [28:15] Robert Moses had power that no one understood. Power that nobody else was even thinking about. [29:50] There are sentences that are said to you in your life that are chiseled into your memory. [34:00] Three of the editors took me to some fancy restaurant and told me they could make me a star. Bob Gottlieb said, Well, I don't go out for lunch but we can have a sandwich at my desk and talk about your book. So of course I picked him. [37:15] Robert Moses was a ruthless genius with savage energy. [38:30] Ambitious people are rare, so if everyone is mixed together randomly, as they tend to be early in people's lives, then the ambitious ones won't have many ambitious peers. When you take people like this and put them together with other ambitious people, they bloom like dying plants given water. Probably most ambitious people are starved for the sort of encouragement they'd get from ambitious peers, whatever their age. — Paul Graham’s essays. (Founders #275-277) [42:30] in a couple of sentences these two men —idols of mine — had wiped away five years of doubt. [42:50] There is not a more mysterious craft than entrepreneurship. [48:15] I now had a picture of Lyndon Johnson's youth, that terrible youth, that character hardening youth. [54:00] I wasn't fully understanding what these people were telling me about the depth of Lyndon Johnson's determination, about the frantic urgency, the desperation, to get ahead, and to get ahead fast. As if the passions, the ambitions that he brought to Washington, strong though they were, were somehow intensified by the fact that he was finally there, in the place where he had always wanted to be. I wanted to show the contrast between what he was coming from the poverty, the insecurity —and what he was trying for. [55:15] I wanted to make the reader see the contrast between what he was coming from and what he was trying for. Something on the way to work had excited him and thrilled him so much that he'd break into a run every morning. [56:15] And as Lyndon Johnson came up Capitol Hill in the morning, he would be running. Well, of course he was running—from the land of poverty to this. Everything he had ever wanted, everything he had ever hoped for, was there. ---- Join my free email newsletter to get my top 10 highlights from every book ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast ---- Founders Notes gives you the ability to tap into the collective knowledge of history's greatest entrepreneurs on demand. Use it to supplement the decisions you make in your work.  Get access to Founders Notes here.  ---- “I have listened to every episode released and look forward to every episode that comes out. The only criticism I would have is that after each podcast I usually want to buy the book because I am interested so my poor wallet suffers. ” — Gareth Be like Gareth. Buy a book: All the books featured on Founders Podcast

Transcript

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0:00.0

biography should not just be a collection of facts.

0:02.4

It's of real importance to enable the reader to see in his mind

0:05.6

the places in which the book's facts are located.

0:08.4

If a reader can visualize them for himself,

0:11.5

then he may be able to understand things without the writer having

0:15.2

to explain them.

0:17.2

Seeing something for yourself always makes you understand it better.

0:21.3

It took me a long time to understand this, that there are moments of what were for me

0:25.7

revelations, of insights that suddenly helped me understand.

0:30.8

One of these moments had to do with his father and with the effect on Linden Johnson of a mistake his father made because he didn't understand the land.

0:40.0

You can't get very deep into Johnson's life without realizing that the central fact of his life was his relationship with his father.

0:48.0

His brother Sam once said to me, the most important thing for Linden was not to be like daddy. His father's

0:56.1

optimism, his romantic idealistic streak kept him from looking at hard facts. In the

1:01.8

Hill Country that really cost him. Cost him, among other things, the love, or at least the respect and admiration of his eldest son.

1:10.9

It was Sam Johnson's determination to buy the original Johnson Ranch.

1:15.0

The Ranch's soil had worn out.

1:18.0

There wasn't going to be any way of making much money out of that land,

1:21.0

and his father didn't realize that. His father overpaid for the

1:25.6

ranch. He paid so much that the ranch couldn't possibly earn back what he had

1:30.1

paid for. When Linden was, his father went broke and lost the ranch.

1:36.2

And a crucial element of Linden Johnson's youth is a consequence of that loss, the insecurity that followed.

1:44.0

Linden had to live with the fear that the bank was going to take their house away.

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