304. Teens and Books: A Deep Dive With Dawn Smith
Brave Writer
Julie Bogart and Melissa Wiley
4.8 • 927 Ratings
🗓️ 10 September 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Do you ever wonder how to keep teens reading—joyfully, deeply, and on their own terms? In this conversation with Brave Writer Director of Publishing Dawn Smith, we explore practical ways to sustain a teen’s love of books: continuing read-alouds, using buddy-reading systems with sticky-note annotations, deciding when a movie should come before (or after) the book, and leveraging picture books, audiobooks, and graphic adaptations as scaffolds into harder texts. We also share a simple framework for building teen book lists—evaluating a single title, the mix across a year, and the overall “reading diet”—so families preserve joy while expanding range and rigor.
Resources:
- Find Jim Trelease’s The Read-Aloud Handbook in the Brave Writer Book Shop
- Check out our Boomerang and Slingshot guides for teens: https://blog.bravewriter.com/2024/05/30/2024-2025-mechanics-literature-programs/
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- Visit Julie’s Substack to find her special podcast for kids (and a lot more!)
- Purchase Julie’s new book, Help! My Kid Hates Writing
- Join us at the Brave Learner Home: https://bravewriter.com/brave-learner-home
- Learn more about the Brave Writer Literature & Mechanics programs
- Start a free trial of CTCmath.com to try the math program that’s sure to grab and keep your child’s attention
- Give your child the gift of music! Sign up for a free month of private lessons with Maestro Music and let your child discover their own musical voice: www.maestromusic.online/brave
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| 0:48.3 | Hello, welcome to the Brave Writer podcast. |
| 0:52.3 | I am Melissa Wiley, and my co-host Julie Bogart is out today. So I have a very special guest with me for today's conversation, which is going to be all about homeschooling teens, especially around books, reading, what teens are reading, what teens want to read, how to discuss books with teens, |
| 1:12.7 | all sorts of things like that. So I am joined by Dawn Smith, who is Brave Writers' Director |
| 1:18.8 | of Publishing. And Dawn, in addition to being my editor on the darts that I write for Brave Writer, |
| 1:26.0 | John is the person who picks the books for all of the programs, the dart, the arrow, the boomerang. |
| 1:33.6 | Don put together our slingshot book lists over the years. |
| 1:38.3 | Oh, and the quills, Dawn and I worked closely together on those quills. |
| 1:42.1 | That was some of our most fun collaboration, I would say. Would you agree, John? |
| 1:46.9 | Absolutely. Oh, I just put you on the spot. What if you didn't agree? Well, I do. I do. The quills were fun. And, you know, that word fun. We don't just throw it around lightly. Because if you did disagree, that would be a great segue into the larger topic of like, how do we navigate conversations with our teens about books and why we want them to read certain books. |
| 2:11.7 | And what happens when there are books that they want to read that make us uncomfortable and all sorts of this big picture of our homeschooled teenagers and the books that they read. |
| 2:23.6 | That leads me to think of the word nuanced because my fun with the quill is nuanced and like I really, really enjoyed the reading and writing parts of the quill, but the math part was a struggle for me. |
| 2:36.6 | So like everything, and especially like when we are engaging with our teens, it is nuanced. |
| 2:44.0 | There aren't always, you know, really definitive answers either way. |
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