304: Inspiring Women
#SistersInLaw
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🗓️ 16 May 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Jill Wine-Banks hosts #SistersInLaw to explain the D.C. Circuit arguments over Trump’s 2025 executive order punishing elite law firms for representing clients and causes he dislikes, the firms’ lower court wins, the government’s failed arguments, and the court’s skepticism. Then, the #Sisters examine the DOJ subpoena to the Wall Street Journal issued as part of a leak investigation, and discuss its threat to press freedom. They also review Jamie Raskin’s anti-corruption bills that strengthen emoluments rules, ban pardon payments, and further other good-government reforms.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to hashtag sisters-in-law with Barb McQuaid and me, Jill Weinbanks. Joyce and Kim will be back |
| 0:19.2 | next week. We miss them, but they'll be here next week. |
| 0:23.2 | In today's show, we have some really heavy-duty topics and one that maybe will make us a little |
| 0:29.0 | happier. We're going to discuss the oral arguments in the law firm extortion. I guess it's called |
| 0:36.2 | an executive orator case, but it is sort of like extortion. |
| 0:39.9 | And then we're going to talk about one of the many DOJ wrongs of the week. |
| 0:45.5 | We're going to talk about their subpoena to the Wall Street Journal. |
| 0:49.0 | And on a better side, we're talking about some proposed legislation that could make a difference to our |
| 0:55.6 | democracy, and that is the anti-corruption, anti-grift legislation that's being proposed by |
| 1:02.5 | Jamie Raskin and several other members of Congress and also Schumer in the Senate. So before we get |
| 1:10.3 | to those topics, though, Barb, I want to talk about your book |
| 1:14.1 | because it's almost out and you're almost ready to start your book tour. And I understand you have |
| 1:20.1 | an event. The first of your book tour is at the 92nd Street Y, which is really a prestigious |
| 1:25.4 | place to appear. When is that? And how do people get |
| 1:28.4 | tickets for it? Oh, thanks a lot, Jill. Yeah, my new book, it comes out June 2nd. It's called The Fix, |
| 1:33.4 | saving America from the corruption of a mob-style government. You know, it uses some of the lessons |
| 1:38.6 | I learned as a prosecutor in combating crime and comparing some of the tactics of the Trump administration, |
| 1:46.9 | but mostly offering solutions. So, you know, hence the name of a fix. But the first event to |
| 1:53.3 | launch the book tour, you know, most of the month of June, I'm going to be traveling around the |
| 1:56.0 | country to talk about it. Maybe we can put the tour schedule in the show notes. But on May 31st, as you said, I'll be at the 92nd Street Y with Preet Barara. And we are going to be live recording an episode of his podcast, stay tuned with Preet, and talking about the show there. So I'm really excited. You and I had a chance to be at the 90 Second Street Y. A couple of years ago, it's a wonderful venue. |
| 2:34.9 | So anybody in the New York vicinity, I hope you come out and see us on May 31st. It's a Sunday evening, and I'll post a link in the show notes. But thanks, Jill. You know what it's like to launch a book, right? There's a little bit of you that's very self-conscious that you're putting out into the world. but I hope I have some ideas that I really want to share with people and I look forward to talking about them. |
| 2:38.5 | And I have to mention that you're coming to Chicago and I get to interview you. I believe it's the |
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