The following is a conversation with Bishop Robert Barron, founder of Ward on Fire and

one of the greatest educators in the world on the beauty and wisdom within Catholicism,

Christianity and religious faith in general.

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I wear, in fact I'm currently wearing, as I speak these words, they're a black dress

shirt and I'm doing so while looking out the window into historic part of Kiev.

I'm traveling all over Ukraine but now I'm just looking at the beautiful hills of Kiev.

So much history in these buildings, so much history in these streets, so much history

in the people, the culture, the food, the music of the language.

And speaking a lot, a lot, a lot and learning a lot and listening a lot and it's just beautiful

people.

And of course throughout all of it, wearing the very basics, Miz and the Maine black shirt,

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