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Hey, James, there is a myth that Donald Trump won a landslide election came in hugely popular

and with a huge mandate.

He won by 1.5 points.

He got less than 50% against the political destruction caused by Joe Biden.

He won.

There's no doubt.

He did not win any kind of huge mandate or landslide. He got, I think, of that 49 plus percent he got. My guess is about

39 percent is MAGA. They will never be shaken. He could do anything. But that other 10 or 11

percent, they didn't bargain for a billionaire boys shutting down social

security offices slashing Medicaid totally unqualified and scandal-ridden defense secretary

and a totally politicized justice department and most of all they sure as hell didn't reckon

for economic

chaos and a likely recession.

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