Hello and welcome back to True Crime Guys podcast. I'm your host, Michael, and you know Andy's here.

Ooh, it is nice and toasty. I got it cozy in here. I actually remember to turn on the heater.

There we're welcome. I'm nice and acclimated to my environment now.

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But today I actually got two cases a double dose Michael it is so it's a my, my title is kind of a, a double entendre, if you will.

Oh. Yeah. The cases, I think, are kind of two peas in a pod because they involve violent teenagers.

Okay. Okay.

And also, that happened to be all around the same age and male. Um, and then also there were, I'm, I'm kind of being a smart ass in reference to one of the

comments by some grandparents. Oh, okay. Let's see. So, you know, it's fun. Let's see your punniness

in the play, Michael. It's fun. It's fun. But yeah, today we're talking about, we're going to

start with 18 year old Anna Kepner. This is everywhere right now.

I've heard about this one a little bit. I open Reddit to just on the front page of Reddit,

and I could not ignore this story. I didn't even, I'm not even in the true crime Reddit yet.

You feel me? Like, I haven't even clicked on my normal discussion boards.

But no, 18-year-old Anna Kepner's body was found wrapped in a blanket under a bed surrounded by life jackets on a cruise ship in November of 2025, just a few months ago.

And there were very few clues as to what happened.

But now her teenage stepbrother has been

arrested and charged. And for damn good reason, if you ask me, they, it's, yeah, we don't know

all the facts yet. There's going to be a lot of allegedly, and I'm going to use a fake name

for this fella, but it's not looking good for him.

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