303: Megan Phelps-Roper | Unfollowing Westboro Baptist Church Part Two
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Jordan Harbinger
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ποΈ 23 January 2020
β±οΈ 44 minutes
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Summary
Megan Phelps-Roper (@meganphelps) grew up in the Westboro Baptist Church, an organization widely monitored as a hate group for its anti-gay, anti-Jewish, anti-American protests. She left WBC in 2012 and has since written about her experiences in Unfollow: A Memoir of Loving and Leaving the Westboro Baptist Church. This is part two of a two-part episode. Listen to part one here!
What We Discuss with Megan Phelps-Roper:- What catalyzed Megan and her sister's departure from the Westboro Baptist Church in 2012, and how do the family members left behind feel about their decision?
- The logistics Megan and her sister faced when they decided to leave the home and family they'd known their entire lives to start anew in the outside world.
- What Megan learned about the human capacity for empathy, generosity, forgiveness β and general goodness β by revisiting people she'd formerly picketed in WBC.
- What Megan's experiences have taught her about the cognitive biases we all have β about everything from religion to politics β no matter how smart we think we are.
- The four steps others used to break through to Megan and get her to have real conversations, and how we can use them to connect with people who disagree with us on a fundamental level.
- And much moreβ¦
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| 0:46.3 | Today, part two, with Megan Phelps-Roper. |
| 0:49.5 | She started her life in one of the most infamous churches in the world, the Westboro Baptist |
| 0:53.8 | Church. |
| 0:54.8 | They were known for protesting soldiers, funerals, and children's funerals with signs |
| 0:58.5 | that say things like, God hates fags, and thank God for September 11th in prey for more |
| 1:02.8 | dead soldiers. |
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