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Oh, Oh, Welcome to the 3028 a show about Disney history and Disney history. I'm Ed Parish.

And I'm Kevin Quigley. You know, Kevin, one of the best parts about recording with you, at least from my perspective, is the fluidity, the liquid nature

in which we brainstorm together and operate together and it's not like we don't set up plans because we normally do that but we do a ton of brainstorming as you know and every once in a while a little light comes on and we know there's a topic that we have to cover on the next show.

We it's so funny like I'll be at the gym or something and and you and I will be

texting and I'll be like jogging or whatever and then uh you'll say something and I'll

say something and then I'll be like oh we have to do a show on this and you're like yes we do right now let's go

We totally we really have that like we brainstorm like sometimes we'll try to have an idea and nothing's coming and then like the next day we'll just be talking about something random and an idea will just encorsel itself to us.

It's always in sourceling.

We can't escape the, we can't escape the ensorceling.

That's right.

And I think this one came about because I did that show Imagineering Batu with

Joshua Shaver Moskowitz who is the husband of Jeffrey two good friends of mine

and he was talking about doing lighting at

Shanghai Disney and suggested that lighting and other components of lands were

somewhat like jewelry. Yeah, the jewelry of each land.

You know, by the way, I was just saying

I just love how you say their names.

It's always Jeffrey and Joshua, Jay Vermoskowitz.

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