301: Stop Pretending Trump Plays By the Rules
The Lincoln Project
The Lincoln Project
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🗓️ 5 December 2023
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Host Reed Galen is joined by Lincoln Project Senior Advisors Stuart Stevens and Joe Trippi to discuss where we currently stand as a nation, why our democracy continues to face an existential threat, and why the pro-democracy movement must remain laser-focused on 2024. Plus, our biggest worries…and what we’re most optimistic about. For more from Stuart Stevens, be sure to check out his new book, The Conspiracy to End America, and for more Joe Trippi, be sure to check out The Trippi Show. For more from Reed Galen, be sure to subscribe to “The Home Front”. If you’d like to ask a question or share a comment with The Lincoln Project, send an email to podcast@lincolnproject.us.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everyone, it's Reid. As you're listening to this, we are 48 weeks away from Election Day |
| 0:05.0 | 2024. I know it seems like a long way away, but it's not. Now is the time getting to get involved. |
| 0:12.3 | Join the union.us, Lincoln Project.us, or get involved with an organization in your community, guys. |
| 0:19.0 | We cannot, cannot, cannot wait until the last minute to start |
| 0:23.6 | this battle. Guys, we can, we must, and we will win, but only if we all work together. And now, |
| 0:30.0 | on with the show. |
| 0:40.7 | Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Gaila. |
| 0:43.5 | Today I'm joined by Stuart Stevens, Senior Advisor to the Lincoln Project and author of The |
| 0:48.3 | Conspiracy to End America, Out now and available wherever fine books are sold. |
| 0:53.3 | Stewart, always a pleasure to have you. Great to be here, man. Thanks for asking me to the party. Once again, I'm also joined by the legendary Joe Trippi, also a senior advisor to the Lincoln Project and host of That Trippie Show, found wherever fine podcasts are downloadable. Joe, welcome back. Great to be with you, Reed. All right, jents, |
| 1:12.6 | it's been a while since we've had you on. So let me start with this. I have no less than probably |
| 1:18.6 | 10 books to my left about the nature of the threat facing America, probably another 10 or 15 behind me. |
| 1:26.6 | We have all interviewed these people. We have all |
| 1:29.0 | talked to the Ruth Ben Guayat's of the world. And Stuart, what is it? You said to me in 2021 that our |
| 1:37.1 | biggest mistake was not having a broad enough imagination. Here now we are, less than a year away from Election Day |
| 1:45.6 | 2024. Atlantic is just out with 24 of its contributors saying what all the threats are. |
| 1:52.0 | Another book is out every week written by very smart people trying to wake us up. What will make |
| 1:57.6 | the scales fall from the eyes? What will the alarm clock be? |
| 2:01.7 | What will it take? |
| 2:05.5 | Well, first, you know, that kind of works on the presumption that it will happen. |
| 2:11.4 | And I think we have to allow for the possibility that we might be in the good old days right now. |
| 2:15.6 | Look back on this as, you know, the last great moment in America. |
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