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And Upland Gun Company, custom-built and fit handcrafted Italian shotguns. Thank you. I've seen a bunch of pictures that your buddy Mike sent me.

I have no idea if you've seen this little collage or if you did this or he did this.

I don't know.

But I did take note of the side by side in all nine photos right away.

And that put a smile on my face, but it sounds like you're, you might be a hammer gun guy,

at least in your dreams at this point.

Yeah, I'm a traditional hunter.

I mean, I was very, very, very lucky to be growing up where I am.

I mean, I'm in Idaho and through and through.

I go back.

My family goes back before it was a state.

Really?

And, yes.

And, I mean, I have three kids, one on the way in January, and they're all born here.

One was, my last one was born in the house that I built.

And I was very lucky to have very good... They're all born here. One was, my last one was born in the house that I built. And,

and, uh, I'm, I was very lucky to have very good mentors growing up. I had a father that hunted, but I, he also, you know, you know, uh, had men, I had men that mentored me in, and, and I, I was a, I, I started in traditional bow hunting.

Okay.

And had mentors that... and hunting. And I started in traditional bow hunting.

Okay.

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