This is the Baimal podcast with Marty Solomon. I'm his co-host, Brent Billings. Today I'm joined by Redent to discuss Thomas, a seemingly strange disciple, and question the nature of doubt and belief.

Oh yeah. Hey Brent. Howdy. Howdy. Surely no doubt. This will be a short episode.

No, no doubt. I see what you did there. Well, we're only going to do, we're only going to really do a portion of the passage that we're actually reading in an effort to keep it relatively short, but I'm way past the point of making promises. My reputation precedes me.

I did go on the Israel trip, like a month ago, a month and a half ago, and a lot of people had a lot of comments about the length of the Baimal episodes that I've done. So it is what it is. I'm I just give up at this point.

All right. Well, let's jump in then. Yeah, let's do it. We're actually going to pick up a little bit of the passage that L and I went over last time just because it kind of ties in with the Thomas side of this story.

So we're going to be in John 20 starting in verse 19, even though we already covered it officially, but that's all right. Every verse plus is what we're calling this.

On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, peace be with you. After he said this, he showed them his hands inside.

The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.

Again, Jesus said, peace be with you as a father sent me. I'm sending you blah blah blah Holy Spirit. Okay. So that's what we covered last time.

That's the right response to that blah blah blah. You know, I I've read and looked at even more on that little chunk of the passage since last time and it's like me and there's some there's you know, there's so much stuff you could explore there.

But yeah, well, and I mean, I don't know what was said last time yet because we're recording this before that episode has released.

But I'm also pretty confident that the Bama listeners are, you know, informed in a student that all that stuff that you blah blah through they probably have lots of great connections and thoughts about that anyway.

Yeah, so it's good. We can blah blah blah for now. Yes, yes. Okay. So now Thomas, also known as Diedemus, one of the 12 was not with the disciples when Jesus came.

So the other disciples told him we have seen the Lord, but he said to them, unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.

Yeah. And just a note on that, which I think is going to come up later. The Greek, apparently I've learned from the any two foot notes, the Greek very often omits direct objects when whatever the context is is clear.

Okay. And so the any tea actually adds the object back into the text, they say, you know, unless I see blah blah blah, I will never believe I will never believe it it that they have seen the Lord or that he has risen or whatever.

But but that specific instance, whereas the way the NIV reads it almost seems like I won't believe in Jesus or something. I don't know.

Like it just right. It makes it seem bigger. So anyway, just a just a note there as we for sure that that will probably come back. Am I am I still reading or you done for now?

Let's let's stop here for a second. Just to get acquainted with our man here, Thomas.

He is a disciple that doesn't get a ton of action in the Gospels. He does pop up a few times, but I think he's kind of infamous.

Well, I mean, so what do you think of Brent when you think of Thomas?

I mean, the classic doubting Thomas is the is the line. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's like even even people who don't know any stories about him at all are familiar with that phrase doubting Thomas.

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