So hello and welcome back to the Small Animal Clinical Podcast, brought to you from the Royal Veterinary College in London. My name is Shailen Jassani. And today's episode is part two of our podcast on veterinary ethics and animal welfare in clinical practice. I'm not going to have an iTunes acknowledgement introduction for this episode. We're just

going to dive right in. And I'm joined once again by Martin Whiting, who is the lecturer in

veterinary ethics and law here at the RVC. So in part one of this two-part podcast series, we discussed at some length, some of the, I guess,

the more kind of theoretical background thought processes that maybe one needs to have in your mind

when you're thinking about veterinary ethics and animal welfare. And what I wanted to do now in part

two of this mini-series was to look at some specific clinical scenarios,

and Martin's going to help us to, I guess, put some of that more theoretical discussion kind of into context in the context of some clinical scenarios that you may have encountered or you may go on to encounter.

Some of this is going to be depending on what part of the world you live in.

So let's welcome you back again, Martin.

Thank you for joining me again.

Thank you very much.

And for agreeing to let these podcasts become too long past.

That's awesome.

Let's dive straight in then and get on with the first clinical scenario that I wanted to talk about. So this is an old dog

that has aggressive terminal metastatic cancer that is causing the dog a severe amount of critical

illness and morbidity such that the patient actually needs to be hospitalized in order to try and provide the required

therapy.

Now, the dog's carers are intransigence that they do not want their dog euthanase,

while you and your colleagues feel that the dog is suffering unreasonably and that

euthanasia is in his best interests.

So can you kind of elaborate a little bit on how we should be thinking about this scenario

in terms of veterinary ethics and animal welfare?

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