Welcome back to the place we find ourselves. Happy New Year, everybody. I'm Adam

Young and today is the first episode in a two-part series on trauma and the

Enneagram. I am honored to have Beth McCord join me on both episodes, a

Beth's and expert on the Enneagram. And if you're not familiar with the Enneagram,

you can check out her website which is your Enneagram Coach.com. That's your

Enneagram Coach.com. What Beth and I want to do over the next two episodes is to

explore the question of how might your Enneagram type influence the way you

experience abuse or harm? And how might your Enneagram type influence the way

you respond to abuse or harm? In other words, if you're in Enneagram 8, how are

you going to be more apt to react when you are harmed by another person? And what

if you're in Enneagram 9? So that's where we're going today. Thanks for

listening. Here's my conversation with Beth.

Okay, I have Beth McCord on the line. Beth, it is good to see you. Yeah, you too Adam

thanks for having me. You bet. Say a bit about who you are, what you're up to. I

mean the title of this episode is about the Enneagram. You are an expert. I

would say on the Enneagram and very seasoned in working with it. Tell us a little

bit about what you have going related to the Enneagram. For the last 15 to 16 years,

I've been studying the Enneagram. My approach has been how do we use this amazing

resource and tool to show us where real transformation takes place. So this is just a tool

that is showing that the real transformation is a gospel. And so we're not making this

the thing. There's lots of ways to understand ourselves. But this is a really

dynamic way of getting astonishing clarity on why we do what we do. So that's really

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