What's poppin' everybody? Hello and welcome to Popcorn Culture. My name is Ben

Karlin and I am your host. Here with me today is my brother Jay who will be in every episode.

Still the most special guest there ever was on the pop. My goodness.

Surely the special guest. Yep, that's me. I'm special. I'm just... I'm deciding that if I lean

into your special guest status then you won't harp on it too heavily and then maybe it'll just

sort of like fall in and that's like what it'll be. Oh, is that what you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like... I see what strategy you're going for. Right, like yeah. It's like when you appease

somebody then there's no more tension and when there's no tension motivation is dropped. You can't

make fun of someone if they agree with you. Exactly. No fun. No, it's not fun at all. It's not fun at all.

This was learning to laugh at yourself in like grade school, middle school, high school,

any moment where you had that person in class who was making fun of you for something.

The sooner you were able to learn how to roll with it and be like a part of the laughter instead of

like internalizing it, which is hard. Oh, yeah. What you're asking is basically impossible.

It is basically impossible. It is the most obvious and easy advice, but the execution because

especially if somebody hits one of those things that you're particularly self-conscious about.

Oh, and let me tell you, no one in the world is better than middle schoolers and high schoolers

at looking at you and assessing your exact weakness. Yes. Yes. With surgical position.

With surgical... It is scary. It is scary. It is remarkable. I think I don't know if it is the case.

And maybe it was the high school we went to which only had like maybe 800 students. So like you,

it's pretty remarkable how quickly you pretty much know all 200 people in your grade. Sure.

For the most part, I mean there are people probably that you had fewer conversations with.

But for me, I could have like if you gave me like flashcards at least while I was in high school,

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