#30 - Socrates Conversations: Heather Mac Donald / Roger Kimball
The Eric Metaxas Show
Metaxas Media
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🗓️ 29 December 2025
⏱️ 55 minutes
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@SocratesITC conversation asks why Western civilization seems bent on self-destruction, and what modern art, politics, and prestige did to beauty and standards, featuring @HMDatMI and @rogerkimball. TIMESTAMPS(0:00) Intro (0:28) Todd Chatman Joins (8:21) Heather Mac Donald and Roger Kimball Join(15:38) What Makes Art Good(27:39) Beauty And Prestige
(42:46) Why West Self Blames (49:24) Merit And Taste Debate
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks, as an almost New Year's Eve treat, I am thrilled to share with you a recent Socrates in the City conversations we filmed this year. |
| 0:07.5 | We're doing so many exciting things over at SocratesintheCity.com. |
| 0:11.4 | Your two hosts for this scintillating conversation on what is driving Western civilization to be suicidal are the brilliant Heather McDonald and equally brilliant Roger Kimball. |
| 0:21.8 | Enjoy. |
| 0:28.6 | As you know, we're doing this campaign with CSI. |
| 0:31.2 | We're freeing slaves. |
| 0:32.5 | And we wanted to give you an update. |
| 0:33.7 | I don't think we've given you an update. |
| 0:36.0 | It's exciting. |
| 0:37.1 | It's exciting because this is real. So we're bringing on Todd Chapman. Todd, welcome back. Hey, good to be here, Eric. Merry Christmas. I wore my red woodman flannel, just for you. You look Christmas. And I'm wearing green, so we compliment each other. You're the tree. I'm the guy who's going to chop it down. Thank you very much. Thank you |
| 0:54.7 | very much. Yeah, yeah. We're the, we're the holly and the ivy, there you go. All right. So, all right, so give us an update. And actually, wait a minute, before you give us an update, I want to, I don't think I've mentioned this recently, and I want to throw it in because I know there are folks out there. |
| 1:11.7 | Ladies and gentlemen, I say this, |
| 1:14.0 | every time we do this, Kim, and I want to throw it in because I know there are folks out there. |
| 1:17.5 | Ladies and gentlemen, I say this every time we do this campaign, one of the things that I can do is offer my time. |
| 1:19.1 | If I believe in something, I can offer my time. |
| 1:21.1 | And my time has become preposterously valuable. |
| 1:25.2 | It's just I have less and less time. |
| 1:27.5 | But I offer an evening of my time where we can have dinner together, |
| 1:31.8 | whether it's just you know, you and your husband or you and your wife or you or your family |
| 1:36.1 | or some friends or you want to get together a group of couples or whatever you want to do. |
| 1:42.1 | You know, you're paying for the food. |
| 1:43.7 | I show up. I give you my time. And we can either do it in New York if you want to do, you know, you're paying for the food. I show up. |
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