Welcome to within reason.

My name is Alex O'Connor, and my guest today is Dr Joshua Bowen.

Josh Bowen is an eeriologist, a yucuber,

and author of the book,

did the Old Testament endorse slavery,

a work which is currently in the process of being updated

and reissued?

So I thought it was a good time to sit down with Dr Bowen to discuss that question.

Does the Old Testament endorse slavery?

And if it does, what kind of slavery are we talking about?

We sometimes hear from religious apologists

that this isn't the bad kind of slavery that comes to mind

when we think of the antebellum slavery of 19th century America, for example.

But Josh Bowen wants to argue that this is a mistaken idea.

I was astonished by this conversation and found it to be greatly enjoyable and I hope that you do too. Joshua Bowen, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. Ah, thank you for having me.

I'm excited to sit down and talk to you.

I saw on Twitter that you were working on an updated version of your book,

did the Old Testament endorse slavery.

I wondered sort of, I mean we were just talking on camera and you said that this book has sort of expanded greatly

since the original edition. Why is this something

that you wanted to write about? I think probably because one I end up talking

about this far more than anyone would hope or dream to talk about it.

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