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The Brian Lehrer Show

30 Issues in 30 Days: City-Owned Grocery Stores?

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

New York City would not be the first city in America to open a publicly-owned grocery store.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Larry Show on WNYC.

0:13.0

Good morning again, everyone.

0:14.6

Now we continue our election series, 30 issues and 30 days.

0:18.2

Today it's issue 25 city-run grocery stores. It's one of mayoral frontrunners

0:23.1

around Mamdani's big campaign promises to establish a network of city-owned, low-cost grocery stores,

0:29.7

one in each borough, to combat rising prices and, in particular, food deserts. These grocery stores

0:36.3

would exist as a public resource under a Mamdani administration,

0:40.8

not as a profit-seeking business.

0:43.2

Critics say the plan is fiscally irresponsible.

0:46.8

That's their side.

0:47.9

Joining us now is Yasmin Tayag, staff writer at the Atlantic,

0:51.9

to talk about what Mamdani's grocery store proposal could look like in practice,

0:55.8

how other cities have tried similar experiments. She's looked at that in depth, and what the

1:01.6

skepticism around us, around it, tells us about food access and affordability in New York.

1:08.1

Hi, Aspen. Welcome back to WNYC.

1:10.6

Hi, Brian. Thanks so much for having me.

1:12.5

Can you first explain the proposal in more detail because I think people hear this as kind of a

1:19.1

bumper sticker and then most of the coverage goes on to other things. City-run grocery stores.

1:26.2

How would they work?

1:30.8

Well, you know, it's funny to describe it as a bumper sticker because that's kind of all the detail we have from Momdani.

1:34.5

So his proposal is to build a network of city-owned affordable grocery stores,

1:41.4

and he wants to start with a pilot of five grocery stores, one in each of the boroughs.

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