I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hi, everybody.

Welcome to the Soberful podcast.

This is Veronica Valley.

And today I'm really, really excited because I'm interviewing one of my favorite people in the sober universe.

And that is Lynn Matty. Welcome, Lynn.

Hi, Veronica. That was so sweet. Oh, my gosh. I'm blushing.

So, Lynn, I guess we just connected somewhere on social media somehow. I can't remember. I've no

idea. Yeah. I think I stocked you for a while. Really? Yeah, yeah. So we connected. I just thought, I like the cut of her jib. I like her. I like what you had to say. And I just felt really like we were very much on the same way for them. I felt the same. Yeah. And then it's sort of like blind dating, you know. We met in person at she recovers in L.A. back in September. There's always that like, oh my God, what if we meet in person? And I'm like, oh, God. Walk, walk. Yeah. But I think that the silent disco solidified our friendship forever.

Forever. For those of you who don't know, those of us, I guess, weren't around in the 60s and 70s,

we're like, what the hell is a sober disco? But it was fabulous. Sober silent disco. Or yes, silent

disco, sorry. I was like, is this like a millennial thing that we're all going to be rolling our eyes going, oh, God.

And we basically tore the dance floor up for about two and a half hours.

It was so much fun.

I had the cheek hurting from smiling so much, which is so much better than a hangover, right?

Because the next morning I woke up and my cheeks hurt. I know. So much better than my head. Yeah. Do you know what I loved about that? Because there were so many women there who were in early recovery. And I loved their kind of shock the next day. They were kind of like, but I don't understand. I had so much fun. And we're kind of like,

yeah. Yeah. Really? Wow. Did alcohol totally sell you on the fact that you would never have

fun if you didn't drink alcohol? Because they were all like joyous, but like couldn't get the heads

around it, couldn't get the heads that they danced all night and had so much fun without a drop of

alcohol in them. Exactly. It's hard to imagine. I still remember my first belly laugh after I got

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