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The Lincoln Project

30: Allegiance

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Host Reed Galen is joined by fellow Lincoln Project Co-Founders Steve Schmidt and Rick Wilson to discuss the Lincoln Project’s latest ad, the true stakes of the 2022 election, and whether or not the GOP can/should be saved. Plus, don’t forget to register for the second “America First Rally” with Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene on May 21st...attendance highly discouraged! Here’s the registration link: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/america-first-rally-with-congressman-gaetz-and-congresswoman-greene-tickets-154592128217

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, before we get started today, I just want to point you to a terrific new book

0:05.6

called The Bomber Mafia, written by Malcolm Gladwell, the author of The Tipping Point.

0:10.8

And I think it gives really a terrific understanding of how doctrine versus reality can get you into

0:17.6

trouble. I think it's a smart book, it's a quick read. Gladwell is always interesting and I think

0:22.3

brings new and different perspectives so I can't recommend it more highly and now on with the show.

0:35.8

Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Gailan. Today I'm joined by co-founder of

0:41.2

the Lincoln Project, host of LPTV's The Breakdown, back in action next week May 25th,

0:46.8

an author of everything Trump touches dies. Rick Wilson. Rick, thanks for joining me.

0:51.6

Hey Reed, good to be with you. And fresh off his coffee house reading of George Orwell's 1984,

0:57.1

I'm joined by my fellow co-founder of the Lincoln Project Steve Schmidt. Steve, thanks for joining me.

1:02.4

Hey Reed, good to be with you. Hey Rick. I love dramatic readings from Steve. I really do.

1:07.6

For those of you who may have missed it last week, Steve tweeted a two-part video of himself

1:12.0

doing a dramatic reading of George Orwell's 1984. And can I just say Rick, you know, a couple of

1:17.6

our folks were like, he seems to be in a prison or the background seems to be very stark. And I

1:22.9

said, I think you're missing the overall aesthetic of what Steve is trying to do, right? Which is,

1:27.9

when you're reading a story about a man who has a rat attached to his head at the end of the book,

1:34.5

so he says two plus two equals five and can feel good about it, you shouldn't like being a flower filled

1:40.8

garden. Yeah, it's not like Jane Austen. It's not it's not Victorian Edwardian or any other sort of

1:48.4

pastoral English countryside setting. It was a bleak urban dystopia. I almost did it with the

1:54.7

infrared setting. But I thought it was a little much. And I couldn't figure out why one

2:01.9

saw it in my head appeared to be hotter than the other one in the image. No matter which angle I

2:07.2

sat in, so I'm still trying to get to the bottom of that. Well, listen, stay tuned everyone for

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