Total value of stable coins. What do you think by the end of this decade by the end of 2030?

Where are we sitting? 2030? Yeah. Yeah. I feel comfortable saying three trillion dollars. $3 trillion.

$3 trillion.

Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of stable coins.

This is Ryan Sean Adams. I'm here with David Hoffman and we're

here to be become more bankless. We've Jeremy Allaire on the podcast today. This is the man

behind the largest staple coin issued in the US.

We had so much to talk about.

A year ago at this time, major banks like Silicon Valley and Silvergate were failing.

That's the last time we had Jeremy on the podcast.

A moment when USDC had just

depegged and was in the middle of recovering. Operation chokepoint seemed to be a

thing that the US government was doing to squelch off crypto companies from banks and de-bank them.

How did he deal with all of that?

That's where we start the conversation.

And then we discuss, what year is crypto in internet terms?

Are we in the 80s, in the 90s, and the 2000s?

How mature is this technology?

How much more do we have to go?

We also ask, why don't we have a Venmo for crypto yet?

And then we get into the Black Rock and Circle Partnership. How big of a deal is this? What does the US government want from Stable coins? Are they going to try to block it and reject it or are they going to embrace it? At that point we had to bring up Circle's controversial statements

on their main competitor tether.

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