Welcome to Betrayal Trauma Recovery, BTR.org. I'm Anne. I'm sure you remember what it was like when you were searching for help, maybe for your husband, hoping to find the right program or therapist. That's why I started podcasting. I supported my husband through seven years of pornography addiction recovery and not one therapist during that time told me I was experiencing emotional

and psychological abuse and sexual coercion. I didn't want any other woman on the planet to be in

the dark. If you're like the majority of my listeners, you're experiencing the type of abuse that's

invisible and difficult to wrap your head around. Your husband is using porn or having

affairs or lying to you, and you're getting the same bad advice about how to improve communication

or your relationship. If you need support from women who totally understand, check out our daily

group session schedule at BTR.org slash group. We'd love to see you in a session today. One simple, anonymous way to help spread the word

is to click, follow, or subscribe to the Betrayal Trauma Recovery podcast on your favorite

podcasting app. While you're there, every five-star rating helps make this podcast more visible

and will help save other women from getting the wrong kind of help, like a couple

program that will make this type of abuse worse. For those of you who follow or subscribe to this

podcast, thank you so much. Your support means so much to me. Welcome to betrayal trauma recovery.

This is Anne. I have Sarah McDougal on today's episode. She is incredible, and I am so grateful

that she took the time to come on the podcast today. She is an author, an international speaker

and abuse recovery coach for women in the faith community who are healing from abusive relationships.

Her passion is to lead women out of the wilderness and into a wild,

abundant life with Jesus. Welcome, Sarah. Thank you, Anne. It is delightful. I've loved

just chatting with you, getting to know you a little bit. And I'm really excited about today.

We're going to have fun. As much fun as you can have on this kind of topic.

Woo, woo! Yeah, no kidding. I tell this to my new girls all the time.

They say that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger and gives you a really dark and

twisted sense of humor.

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