Hey everybody, welcome to How Leaders Lead. I'm David Novak and I'm here with the Cool, Kula Callahan.

Kula, I understand you just got back from Scotland. Did you have a hole in one while you're over there?

I didn't have a hole in one, although I'm pretty sure I was made for Lynx Golf.

Those wide fairways do really,

really well for my game. As they say these days, I feel you, Kula. Well, let's get right to it.

You know, and today's three more questions, we're going to dive deeper into a conversation I had

with last week's podcast guest, Don Sweeney, the former president and CEO

of the National Restaurant Association. She's also the woman responsible for the Got Milk

Mulk, Milk Mustache campaign, and she is a total icon. Absolutely. She's a great leader, and she did

develop one of the greatest marketing campaigns of all time.

And that's what's remarkable about, Don, is that she really has the courage to step out and do things different.

And you know what, Kula?

Unless Don would have spoken up, this Got Milk campaign would have never, ever existed.

And let me tell you something.

The leaders I admire, they speak up when they think something

can be better. They absolutely do. And we have a lot to learn from Don Sweeney. But I'm excited to get

your take on some of the topics that you guys talked about in your interviews. So we're about to

dive into this week's three more questions, David. Are you ready? I'm always ready. Let's go.

All right. question number one. Dawn's mantra as a leader is work hard and be kind.

I want to know what your mantra as a leader is and how that plays out in your day-to-day work.

Well, my mantra was always be the leader, act like the leader. And the fact was,

is that I really believe that everybody in your organization can lead. It doesn't matter what

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