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How Leaders Lead with David Novak

3 More Questions (Dave McKay) with David Novak and Koula Callahan

How Leaders Lead with David Novak

David Novak Leadership

Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

4.8596 Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of 3 More Questions, you'll hear David Novak's answers to: What’s your take on Dave’s advice to take on three roles at once to move up, and how do you think about moving up in a company? Why do you like Dave's method of evaluating leaders on a 2 dimensional axis? How can leaders make sure that they’re getting the whole story and that they have all the information they need to make the right decisions? ——— GO DEEPER Scale up your leadership skills in 2 minutes a day with the How Leaders Lead app — Download today in the App Store Get coaching from David by signing up to receive his Weekly Leadership Plan. It builds on each podcast episode by offering actionable steps you can take each week to incorporate the learnings from the episode into your leadership style. It only takes about 5 minutes and is a great way to start off your week! Subscribe to the How Leaders Lead podcast to ensure you never miss an episode!

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0:00.0

Welcome to How Leaders Lead. I'm Kula Callahan, here to bring you another edition of three more

0:08.7

questions with David Novak. In these episodes, we debrief the conversation that David had with the

0:13.5

previous week's guest. And David, today, we are debriefing your conversation with Dave Mackay.

0:18.6

He's the president and CEO of Royal Bank of Canada.

0:22.0

All of our episodes are full of great insights, of course. This one is especially excellent,

0:28.6

I think. Yeah, I think it was a really great episode because there's no question that Dave

0:34.5

Mackay is a student of leadership. I mean, he really has thought about

0:37.9

what he looks for in leaders. He's codified it. He's also a leader that walks to talk, a hands-on

0:43.7

leader that has generated results over time, made huge acquisitions, a tremendous leader in the

0:50.5

world. So I had a blast with the conversation. He's worked at RBC since he was like 20 years old.

0:56.5

So the institutional knowledge that he has and the way that he views the business and is always

1:01.0

pushing his people to think bigger and bolder is so inspiring to me. Also, if you're listening to

1:07.3

this and you are a Taylor Swift fan, I need you to go back and listen to the beginning of the episode with David and Dave because I'll just say there's some swiftly insider

1:17.3

knowledge that you need to listen to. Yeah, I love it. He was kind enough to help me get tickets to

1:22.8

the Taylor Swift concert and I was able to take my two granddaughters, Audrey and Claire with me. And we had the

1:30.3

time of our life. And I pretended like I knew all the lyrics like they did. That got you

1:37.0

Grandfather of the Century Award, I'm sure. Not Grandfather of Century. Ogo of the Century.

1:41.6

Ogo of the Century. Oh go of the Century. We'll definitely go back and give the episode a

1:46.1

listen if you haven't yet. But now, David, we're going to get rolling with the three questions that I've

1:51.2

got teed up for you today. All right. Fire away. Question number one. Dave has worked his way up at

2:00.5

RBC. He started as a coder when he was about 20 years old

2:04.1

and now obviously he is president and CEO his advice to people wanting to move up in an organization

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