Hey everybody, welcome to How Leaders Lead. I'm David Novak, and I'm back again here with the

Cool, Kula Callahan. Hi, Kula, how you doing? I'm so great, and it never gets old here in that

intro, honestly. Never gets old. In today's three more questions episode, we're doing a deeper dive into the conversation that you had with last week's podcast guest, Bill Harrison, who is the former chairman and CEO of J.P. Morgan Chase.

And the big idea from that episode was that you need to be intentional about preparing the next leader.

And I hate to say it, but a lot of companies,

they're really on their back foot when it comes to succession planning.

Is that what you've noticed as well, David?

Yeah, I think that that happens in a lot of places,

particularly where you have insecure leaders

who are more concerned about really protecting their job

versus grooming someone to take their job.

But, you know, the really great leaders are confident enough to know that there's always

going to be a place for them.

And their job is to make sure that they get ready for people to replace them as they move

up in the world or out or wherever they want to go to pursue their next opportunity.

And, I mean, we're not technically into the three more questions yet, but I'm curious,

how do you make that shift from insecure a leader who isn't maybe very equipped to prepare

the next person to confidently and who believes in the future of their business?

Well, I think confident comes from from racking up great results over time. It's not something that

you're going to get when you come straight out of college or, you know, just after you get your

masters or wherever you happen to go to school. I think it really comes from time and grade,

putting some wins on the board.

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