This is the video deposition of Pamela Hub.

Today's date is July 21st, 2014.

The time is 9.13 a.m.

This is a case of Leah Day and Mariah Day versus Pamela Hub.

This case is pending in the circuit court of St. Charles County.

Picture a small room, a lacquered conference table, overhead fluorescent lights, a maroon wall.

Pam Hops had in a high back leather chair.

On the other side of the room were two lawyers for Betsy's daughters, Leah and Mariah Day.

They had questions, lots of questions.

Pam twisted a silver bracelet on her left wrist.

Was she nervous, bored, or was she smirking?

The sound is rare, but the testimony of her to give us the truth and I think that the truth is hope again.

It was the summer after Russ was convicted of killing his wife.

Pam Hops was once again in the company of lawyers swearing to tell the truth.

You were called telling detectives at that time that Betsy told you that she wanted her kids to have the money from the insurance policy.

I do not recall that now.

Well, that was interesting.

A convenient memory lapse, after all it was all on tape.

Pam herself told law enforcement that Betsy had entrusted her to save the money for her children.

She said, I'm going to make you the beneficiary if you could, when my daughters are older, give them some money.

Betsy was terminally ill.

And Pam had said that Betsy told her she didn't trust her husband to dole out the money responsibly.

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