You are in fact talking to a black person who is the dean of the Yale School of Management.

That's a fact.

Who is your colleague at Chicago?

We have friends who are deans at similar places or prominent faculty at other places.

I can want.

But if one takes the African-American experience panoramically,

and one way is these obvious and undeniable,

asbest of success, with the bad things,

one would have to say that there are ways in which our hopes have been realized.

And there's a healthy dose of stuff that's pretty bad.

Disappointment and failure intermingled with success.

So Kerwin Charles is such an interesting character.

He's a top economist.

He's the dean of the Yale School of Management. And most interesting to me is he's done all this when he was born in a small town in Guyana.

Welcome to people I mostly admire with Steve Levitt.

Kerwin has a way of understanding that's not academic, but intuitive.

Somehow Kerwin can see what's important.

And that's what he does in his research.

He's studied things as varied as the black-white income and wealth gap and how video games might be the reason why young males are no longer working in the labor market

and how we beat tuberculosis.

And I have to say, of all the economists I know, I think Kuhin gives me the best advice.

It is such a pleasure to be talking today with Kerwin Charles, a good friend and a deep thinker

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