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$3 Billion Leaves Bitcoin ETFs. Why Wall Street Isn't Panicking

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🗓️ 1 June 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of CoinDesk’s Public Keys at the New York Stock Exchange, Jennifer Sanasie is joined by CoinDesk Indices President Dave LaValle to unpack a $2.97 billion outflow streak from Bitcoin ETFs and what it really means for institutional adoption.Bloomberg Intelligence Senior ETF Analyst Eric Balchunas joins the show to explain why the recent outflows may be more noise than signal, share his bullish outlook on the fast-rising HYPE ETFs, and discuss how firms like Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, and BlackRock are expanding access to Bitcoin through new investment products. In this week’s 10X segment, LaValle breaks down the fundamentals of margin trading, explaining what separates professional traders from retail investors when it comes to managing leverage, risk, and conviction. Plus, Stellar Development Foundation CEO and Executive Director Denelle Dixon discusses DTCC’s decision to select Stellar as the first public blockchain connected to its upcoming tokenized securities settlement platform, and what it means for the future of tokenization and institutional blockchain adoption. - This episode of Public Keys is brought to you by Kraken. For more: ⁠https://pro.kraken.com/⁠ - Timecodes: 00:00 Welcome to Public Keys 00:54 Jamie Dimon vs Brian Armstrong on Stablecoin Yields 03:21 Bitcoin ETFs Shed $2.97B in Outflows 05:50 BTC ETFs Post Worst Week Since January 06:50 Grayscale Amends HYPE ETF Filing 08:36 Bloomberg Intelligence's Eric Balchunas Joins Public Keys 09:39 Why BTC ETF Outflows Are Just 'Noise' 13:00 Wall Street's New BTC Products: Goldman, Morgan Stanley, iShares 15:33 HYPE Is the 'Hansel from Zoolander' of Crypto ETFs 17:57 Will SpaceX ETFs Pull Capital from Crypto? 20:42 10X: What Separates Pro Traders from Retail 22:25 Knowing Your 'Out': The Biggest Mistake in Margin Trading 25:06 Stellar Development Foundation's Denelle Dixon on the DTCC Tokenization Deal 26:14 Stellar Hits $3B in Tokenized Assets in Five Months 28:46 Can Blockchains Handle DTCC-Level Volume? 30:21 Digital Twins and the Issuer-Led Tokenization Question 31:50 Will One Blockchain Win the RWA Race? - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

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0:00.0

On today's public keys at the New York Stock Exchange, Bitcoin ETFs rack up a $2.97 billion

0:04.6

outflow streak. Everything you need to know about margin trading and the DTCC names the first

0:09.7

public blockchain for its tokenized securities platform. I'm Jensenassie. Dave LaValle is with me.

0:15.0

Let's get into it.

0:23.6

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0:27.6

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0:29.6

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0:32.6

All right, let's dig into where we are this morning.

0:35.6

Dave, I am so happy to have you here as my co-host today.

0:38.9

Happy Monday.

0:39.6

Happy Monday. I am so happy. Consensus is so much fun co-hosting with you. It's always a good time to be back on the show. Of course. Excited to have you here at the New York Stock Exchange. We kick the show off by talking about what we're watching, what we're watching going into the week and some of the big events from last week.

0:53.6

For me, the Jamie Diamond, Brian Armstrong back and forth has been something that has

0:58.8

really stood out. I mean, look, it makes sense that there is uncertainty in the market and there's

1:04.6

a lack of clarity, no pun intended on what the regulatory rails are going to be around stable

1:09.6

coins and yields that are generated

1:11.5

from stable coins. Obviously, this has a potential material impact on banks, the largest-scale

1:18.8

banks, and also the smallest regional banks and community banks. So until there's real definition

1:26.6

around what the regulatory framework is going to be, obviously there's going to be some debate and everyone's going to be, you know, playing their own cards and making sure that they're, you know, positioning themselves as best as they possibly can. So I'm not totally surprised by any of this, but everyone's waiting to get, you know, that definition.

1:44.6

You know, Dave, something you and I heard a lot from our guests at consensus was that the passing of clarity isn't really going to affect business how it's being done, but it is really that stamp of approval that is really going to tell investors, wealth managers, advisors that this thing is here and it's here

2:02.8

to stay. Things like this, when I hear this back and forth, it makes me feel like, are we at a

2:08.1

contentious point where maybe this doesn't get across the line as fast as it needs to? And some of

2:12.5

those companies that we were talking about maybe start to roll back some of their offerings.

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