Long days, pleasant nights, and welcome to Kingslingers, a doof media podcast journeying

through Stephen King's Dark Tower series and beyond.

I am your host, concert reader Scott Daley, and joining me, as always, the last thing you'd

want to touch if you were feeling your way around a dark room, it's Matt Freeman.

Thanks, man.

I mean, yeah, I gotcha.

Gotcha.

You know, sometimes they just come to me and I'm like, is this mean?

Nah.

It's fine.

It's a little game we play where you insinuate that I'm disgusting in some way and I sit here and take it.

Yeah, that's a great game.

I love it.

It's one of my favorite games.

Yeah. This week on the show, our 11-part coverage of Stephen King's desperation continues as we cover

chapters 1 through 3 of part 4. David comes to them now at the turn of the tide with his

plan on how to defeat tack. Well, really, it doesn't actually have a plan. He just says they have to do it. He doesn't tell them much of anything else. Johnny, really, doesn't actually have a plan. He just, he just says they have to do it.

He doesn't tell them much of anything else. Johnny, of course, being his Johnny self, resists that

entirely. Yeah. And David also kind of manages to insinuate that everybody is going to die and it's

not going to go well. Yeah. He needs to take some classes on leadership and speechmaking, I think.

I agree.

And Mary, surprise, Matt.

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