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Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

3/31/22 Lyle Goldstein: This War Is a Disaster for Russia, Ukraine and the Entire World

Scott Horton Show - Just the Interviews

Scott Horton

News, Politics

4.8902 Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2022

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Scott talks with Lyle Goldstein about the war in Ukraine. Although Goldstein did expect some kind of Russian invasion to take place, he’s been surprised by the difficulty Russia has faced on a number of fronts. Scott and Goldstein discuss a number of theories and takes they’ve been reading across the media landscape. Among the topics covered are the global dangers posed by reductions in Ukrainian farming, Washington’s alleged interest in supporting a long-term insurgency, and the intentional drought in Crimea— which Goldstein says is an often omitted reason behind the invasion. They also talk about the danger of nuclear war, which both agree is higher than many seem to believe. Lastly, they touch on how China has reacted to the invasion, and how much President Xi may have known about Putin's plan to invade. Discussed on the show: “The New Indo-Pacific Strategy is Too Shallow” (Defense News) “Remembering Nixon’s visit to China after half a century” (Asia Times) Lyle J. Goldstein is the Director of Asia Engagement at Defense Priorities. He is the author of Meeting China Halfway: How to Defuse the Emerging US-China Rivalry. Follow his work at The National Interest. This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: The War State and Why The Vietnam War?, by Mike Swanson; Tom Woods’ Liberty Classroom; ExpandDesigns.com/Scott; EasyShip; Free Range Feeder; Thc Hemp Spot; Green Mill Supercritical; Bug-A-Salt and Listen and Think Audio. Shop Libertarian Institute merch or donate to the show through Patreon, PayPal or Bitcoin: 1DZBZNJrxUhQhEzgDh7k8JXHXRjYu5tZiG. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right, y'all welcome to the Scott Horton's show.

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I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute.

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I'm the director of the Libertarian Institute,

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editorial director of anti-war.com.

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Author of the book, Pools Arren,

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time to end the war in Afghanistan,

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and the brand new enough already. Time to end the war in Afghanistan and the brand new enough already time to end the war on

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terrorism and I've recorded more than 5,500 interviews since 2003 almost all on

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foreign policy and all available for you at

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Scott Horton.org you can sign up the podcast feed there and the full interview

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archive is also available at YouTube. YouTube. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Now he was at the Naval War College, but now he's at Defense Priorities and he's a visiting professor at Brown University and he writes all these articles all the time he can find him in the national interest.

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And here he is at defense news.com.

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This one is called the new Indo-Pacific strategy is too shallow.

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Then he's got this one, remembering Nixon's visit to China after half a century.

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A very important story to cover there and of course we got to start though with the

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war in Ukraine you called it on the show I says to you I says so you think

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Russia's gonna invade Ukraine huh and you says yes I do believe so and now here we are and it's been about four and a half weeks and five

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weeks and a hell of a lot of people have been killed I don't know the the total

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number from the UN of

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civilian casualties lately. The last one I heard was more than a thousand.

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Certainly it's many times that. But I guess, you know, what's your assessment of how the war is taking shape in, I guess, the east or in all of Ukraine right now?

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Well, uh... of Ukraine right now? Well as you said Scott I I I always thought the that the estimates were were for real that you know that you know that there was a possibility

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