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The West Wing Weekly

3.00: Isaac and Ishmael (with Ajay Naidu and Fmr Press Secretary Mike McCurry)

The West Wing Weekly

Joshua Malina & Hrishikesh Hirway

Tv & Film

4.912.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2017

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

This is a controversial episode of The West Wing, and one that falls outside the regular storyline of the show. We hash out our conflicting opinions on it to find some common ground. We're also joined by Ajay Naidu to discuss his role as Rakim Ali. And we talk to former White House Press Secretary Mike McCurry, who is now a Professor of Theology; in the spirit of this episode, it's a Jew, an atheist, and a Methodist having a conversation about religion, politics, and pluralism.

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0:00.0

You're listening to The West Wing Weekly. I'm Rashique Heerwey.

0:08.3

And I'm Joshua Molina.

0:10.1

Today we're talking about Isaac and Ishmael. We're calling it episode zero of season three

0:15.7

on our show. It's a weird one because it is not part of the continuity of The West Wing.

0:21.4

As acknowledged by the show itself.

0:23.4

Yeah. There's a difference here if you're watching the show on Netflix, you miss the

0:28.2

original intro, which is on the DVD. And if you buy the show on iTunes, you can see it.

0:33.1

But if you're just watching it on Netflix, you miss this.

0:35.1

It's up on YouTube. We can link to it.

0:37.1

That's right. I thought maybe we could even play part of it. The stuff that Bradley Whitford

0:41.1

says, I thought was especially relevant, he says.

0:43.5

Tonight we offer a play. It's called Isaac and Ishmael. We suggest you don't spend a lot

0:49.2

of time trying to figure out where this episode comes in and the timeline of the series. It

0:53.5

doesn't. It's a storytelling aberration, if you'll allow.

0:56.8

The official NBC synopsis, which I was interested in because I was curious how they presented it.

1:02.6

They said a special episode of the Emmy award winning series dealing with some of the questions

1:06.4

and issues facing the world in the wake of the recent terrorist attacks on the United States.

1:11.6

So this episode was written by Aaron Sorkin. It was directed by Christopher Miseano. And

1:16.3

it first aired on October 3rd, 2001, just three weeks after 9-11.

1:24.4

Here in our episode, we're going to be joined by a J Nidu who played the role of Raqim Ali.

1:29.2

And we're going to talk to Mike McCurray, who is a former press secretary for President

1:32.8

Bill Clinton. And he's now a professor of theology.

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