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BibleThinker

2nd Most Powerful Argument Against God

BibleThinker

Mike Winger

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2024

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

The idea is that God, as the Christian describes Him, cannot exist, since a loving God would reveal Himself to the non-resistant non-believer and He does not. Therefore, such a loving God must not exist. I think this is a truly challenging argument, not only because it tackles what feels like a very real world issue (I admit) but because arguing against it can quickly put you into the position where you are no longer arguing so much about philosophy or logic but where you are pigeon-holed into a situation where people will think you are personally attacking individuals. In other words, when I say that humans are accountable to know that God exists, this argument can quickly turn things into the social foul of saying that people have bad motives or are otherwise insincere. What starts as a philosophical view of the apparentness of God's existence turns into a bullying situation where the Christian is painted as personally attacking others. I reject that framing but I realize that many will continue to see things in that perspective, sadly. This is a short video and it doesn't get into all the issues related to "Divine Hiddenness." It only covers a couple aspects of it. Other arguments should be made about how apparent God's existence is and to address other issues. I hoped to simply do some work that would build a bit of a bridge past the sense of personal offense many feel on this issue and open them up to another way of seeing things. Are you wondering what I would consider the STRONGEST argument against God? Well, in terms of persuasiveness, it would be the Problem of Evil.I have a video on that right here. My website: https://BibleThinker.org

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0:00.0

What do you tell an atheist who says he looked for God and God didn't reveal himself to him?

0:05.0

And generally what do you make of the argument of non-resistant non-believers?

0:09.0

I'm a little torn on it.

0:10.0

On one end, I want to affirm a person's genuine and sincere.

0:15.0

On the other end, I want to affirm that scripture tells me that

0:19.0

men are without excuse, Romans one.

0:21.0

It says, you know, that God's attributes are clearly seen by creation, you can look around

0:25.8

at creation and see his attributes, so people are without excuse if they don't believe in God.

0:29.7

I believe that.

0:31.2

How do I affirm the sincerity of genuine some individuals at the same time be honest about the fact that they should believe in God?

0:39.0

I think I just affirm both. I go look I don't doubt your sincerity. I do, however, think that you should see God in creation. You genuinely don't, but that may be a result of a blindness that's on your heart. Now that is very offensive to people. I realize that.

0:55.2

A lot of non-believers would be like, so okay, so I'm blind, spiritually blinds what you think.

1:01.5

Yes, there's yes, there's an aspect of your awareness of the realities around you that is not right.

1:07.0

Of course, you think I'm blind too. You think I'm blind to how genuine and sincere and non-blind you are.

1:15.8

And so it's not like we're off to a different base.

1:18.4

What's happening in this discussion though

1:20.0

is we're moving the discussion away from God's actual existence

1:23.7

onto a focus of the sincerity and the genuineness

1:26.8

and the goodness of this person I'm across from me

1:29.1

who's like, I'm looking for God and I'm not seeing him.

1:31.5

There are even people who go further and they're like I want to know God I want to believe in God I'm looking and searching and searching

1:37.5

But there are other sources of blindness that are not always internal.

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