The following is a conversation with Demis Hassabis, CEO and co-founder of DeepMind, a company

that has published and built some of the most incredible artificial intelligence systems

in the history of computing, including Alpha Zero that learned all by itself to play the game

of Go better than any human in the world and Alpha Fold 2 that solved protein folding.

Both tasks considered nearly impossible for a very long time.

Demis is widely considered to be one of the most brilliant and impactful humans in the history

of artificial intelligence and science and engineering in general. This was truly an honor

and a pleasure for me to finally sit down with him for this conversation and I'm sure we will

talk many times again in the future. And now a quick few second mention of exponser.

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emails. Those are terms used by people might smarter about the stuff than me, but I think transactional

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And then there's marketing emails, which is when you send an email to a lot of people,

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