This would be episode number 298 of the way I heard it.

And when I say would, what I mean is is.

Is.

It's happening, Chuck.

This is not some future prospect.

It's actually happening in real time.

Yes, indeed it is.

And if it had a title, and it does, it would be, and it is.

Out of the frying pan and into the friar.

Did you mean to say fire, Mike?

Nope, nope.

I meant to be incredibly clever while quoting our guest directly, who is a friend of

my name, Dan McMurtry. He says in the course of this fascinating interview, out of the frying

pan and into the friar. And what he's referring to is the chasm in his life, the giant career shift that happened when he abandoned his dream

to play Major League Baseball and decided instead to be an entrepreneur and then eventually

created a tool, which I want to talk to him about, that he believes, and now I believe,

can save the restaurant industry.

When we changed the format of the podcast, I thought for a while I wanted to change the name

and call it people you should know.

Right.

Because by and large, that's what most of our guests are.

And this is a guy who I know, who I want to introduce the world to, because if he pulls this off, Chuck, and you've met him. Chuck joined me for Thanksgiving dinner this year and a couple years, I guess, before that at this guy's place. He lives not too far from me here in Northern California. And you probably

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