297: Network of Lies with Brian Stelter

The Lincoln Project

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

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🗓️ 21 November 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Host Reed Galen is joined by Author and Journalist Brian Stelter to discuss the political media landscape, why the right-wing media ecosystem is so big and how it’s so effective in its messaging, and what really goes on behind the scenes at Fox News…especially during Donald Trump’s “Big Lie”. Plus, how does the media combat the flattening effect of cable news as a medium? Be sure to pick up Network of Lies: The Epic Saga of Fox News, Donald Trump, and the Battle for American Democracy, available wherever fine books are sold and hear more from Brian Stelter on Vanity Fair’s Inside the Hive. For more from Reed Galen, be sure to subscribe to “The Home Front”. If you’d like to ask a question or share a comment with The Lincoln Project, send an email to podcast@lincolnproject.us.

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, it's Reid. I have to say thank you. 50 million. That is the number of times
0:07.7	Lincoln Project podcast episodes have been listened to since we relaunched in February of 2021.
0:14.2	That is all because of you and I cannot say thank you enough. And here's to 50 million more.
0:22.4	And now on with the show.
0:35.9	Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Galen. Today, I'm joined by Bryant Stelter, journalist and New York Times bestselling author,
0:39.2	whose latest book is Network of Lies, the epic saga of Fox News, Donald Trump, and the Battle for
0:45.5	American Democracy, which is now available wherever fine books are sold. I have my copy here, gang,
0:51.8	go out and get yours. Previously, Stelter was a media reporter at the New York
0:56.0	Times, the chief media correspondent for CNN worldwide, and the anchor of CNN's reliable sources.
1:02.6	He is currently a special correspondent for Vanity Fair and host of their Inside the Hive podcast
1:07.8	and a Walter Schorenstein fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's
1:11.5	Schoenstein Center on Media, Politics, and Public Policy. Today, he's coming to us from New York
1:16.6	City. Brian, welcome. It is an honor to be here. Thank you. Brian, you occupy a very unique
1:24.6	space in American. Oh, I'm not going to like this question. American politics and media.
1:28.8	No, it's an interesting question because you've written a book about Fox News in which
1:34.1	you are of the observer.
1:35.8	You're also a participant, but in some ways you're also sometimes a character, which is,
1:40.8	I know.
1:41.4	They worry about the things you're going to say or the things that you're going to cover over at Fox News, even though, and I know that CNN is now your former home, but that they routinely denigrated the fact that CNN didn't nearly have the ratings, that they were always at the top, you know, Tucker 3 million a night, et cetera, et cetera.
2:00.4	So what is it like to sort of be the father, son, and holy ghost of American political media? Well, if that's not a pull quote for the back cover of the book, I don't know what is. What an endorsement. Thank you. Thank you for that. I felt like I had to be candid about the, you know, the uniqueness of this and insert myself into the book at
2:18.3	times, in part because by being a cable news host, I understand a little bit of what the Tucker
2:23.2	Carlson's go through. I know a little bit of the psyche. Not all of it. Definitely not. I'm not
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