297. Long Runs Explained, The Training Shoe We Love, Black Canyon 100k Predictions, Shockwave Therapy, and Lindsey Vonn’s Courage!
Some Work, All Play
David Roche and Megan Roche
4.8 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 10 February 2026
⏱️ 93 minutes
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Summary
Real talk! This episode is great, but maybe don’t listen out loud IN PUBLIC. The main training topic was a deep dive on long runs. We break down some of the competing long run theories, and how they fit into performance. The discussion ends with 5 principles to know (subject to change as competing theories duel it out).
And there were so many amazing topics! Other topics: the Real Talk Express, Megan’s mental approach to hard efforts, accidental caffeine, David’s bike progress, Lindsey Vonn’s incredible toughness, why Jessie Diggins is our favorite athlete, rumors of injections in sensitive places for ski jumpers, Jonas Abrahamsen finding his strong and pushing the limits in cycling, why the Adidas Evo SL is an amazing training shoe, Black Canyon 100k predictions, a weird and wild study on sexual activity, a discussion of shockwave therapy, and lots more.
May your drinks have secret caffeine, and may your talk be real. We love you all! Huzzah!
-David and Megan
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| 0:00.0 | Woo. Welcome to the Summerk All Play podcast. We are so happy to be with you today. Happy Tuesday. It's |
| 0:05.5 | Tuesday. And I'm ready to get my filming on on this Tuesday. Ready to get your filming on. What are you talking |
| 0:10.1 | about? Talking about filming you. I've done a lot of that in the last week. You know what? It's fun. |
| 0:16.1 | You didn't know that you were unleashing a monster when you gave me permission to do one funny video a week. It is so fun. I get like personal joy out of this. Except sometimes it's like this week you asked me to film. I got a bike flat tire. It was heading out to run. You're like, film me now. And I'm like, I got to go. I got to be honest. Every time I ask you to film, it seems like we don't have time for it. I'm pretty busy. Yeah, you are. But, you know, like three seconds into that filming, I'm like, this is the right choice. You did start laughing. Okay. But we also have to give context for what the filming looked like because you're walking down the middle of our neighborhood. And you have channeled, you call it the David Huggins, which is amazing. And you're in the middle of our neighborhood. It's like |
| 0:55.2 | broad daylight. And you're just like, real talk. Real talk. Motherfuckers. I'm like, |
| 0:58.9 | oh, your children. Don't do that. All the kids are at school. Maybe. You're like screaming it. |
| 1:05.6 | Let's take a setback for people that might not be on Instagram, aka make good life decisions. |
| 1:10.6 | So the night before, we had date night. And while we were there, we saw Can't Hurt Me by David Gagins displayed proudly. And, you know, I really like David Gagins. Like, in the sense of his messages appeal to a part of my masculinity that doesn't come out very often. But when it does, I feel proud of myself. Like right now, |
| 1:28.1 | I have a hairy chest going on. Yeah, what's happening, actually? Yeah. I feel like I'm sitting here right now and you are furrier than you have ever been. You got a beard, you got hair on your chest. Basically, I've got hair everywhere. Yeah, yeah. So I'm feeling it, right? And then I see this book and all of a sudden in Barnes and Noble, I'm just channeling him and being like, |
| 1:45.2 | real talk. |
| 1:45.9 | A lot of motherfuckers want to know. |
| 1:47.2 | And then just filling this book and all of a sudden in Barnes & Noble, I'm just channeling it |
| 1:44.2 | and being like, real talk, a lot of motherfuckers want to know. And then just filling it in with other things. And it was so funny. Well, I knew it was good because it made you laugh so hard in Barnes & Noble. I mean, within three seconds, as soon as you did Real Talk, I was like, your impression was so spot-off. Oh, it's not an impression. It's not an impression. It it's channeling that idea of masculinity but then putting it into a context of like openness and acceptance |
| 2:06.8 | and sensitivity and more feminine energy which is more of a powerful force in me right like that's |
| 2:12.6 | probably 85% of who I am and I think I might have discovered my first character because, you know, |
| 2:19.6 | Saturday Night Live was my favorite thing growing up. And every one of those actors auditions with |
| 2:25.3 | characters. And I just never felt confident putting my characters in public. I had characters. |
| 2:30.3 | I put them for you, but I never did them in public. And then this one, we filmed, |
| 2:34.9 | put it in public. And it went moderately viral so much so that when I first posted it, it went, |
| 2:41.1 | you know, got like a thousand likes in a few minutes. And I just deleted that one. |
| 2:44.2 | You're like, panic. Because like, I was like, do people understand that this is a loving |
| 2:48.1 | tribute and trying to reframe masculinity rather than anything |
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