Don't need to bullshit about prison. You go where the system says you go. So I've seen your case on the

telly. He went, you lot are f***ed. Kind of surreal at the time. You're gone for 25 years and all this.

And prison population has been at breaking point since I first went to prison. Britain's flagship security

jail is basically a prison within the prison. The HSU, probably a different world.

We didn't know what Belmarsh was going to be like, but we soon found out that he lifted up the

bunk bed that long out from the leg of the bed and I just thought, fucking hell. Home office decision

to make you category A, if you are believed to have the means and the contacts to make a genuine escape attempt,

the system reacted to anyone who kicked off in Belmarsh.

The troops come from everywhere far and wide and they arrive almost instantly.

I've seen people wrapped up, beaten up and carried off to the SEG and you don't see

them again. If something happens and it's one of those things where it has to be dealt with,

then you have to go and deal with it. The minute you appear at my door, you're getting that

launched all over you. Prison law is prison law. The rules are different.

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Thanks, Dodge.

Thanks for having me.

Yeah, mate.

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