#296 — Repairing Our Country
Making Sense with Sam Harris
Waking Up with Sam Harris
4.6 • 29.7K Ratings
🗓️ 13 September 2022
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Sam Harris speaks with Jonah Goldberg about the state of American politics and civil society. They discuss the hyperpartisanship of the Left and Right, what Trump has done to the Republican party, the breakdown of trust in institutions, the "new catastrophism" enabled by social media, the problem of populism, and other topics.
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| 0:47.0 | Okay, well, what's going on out there in the world? I hadn't spent much time thinking about |
| 0:53.9 | the British monarchy. I guess I've always had a good American skepticism about the validity |
| 0:59.0 | of the institution. But Andrew Sullivan just wrote a really wonderful short piece, |
| 1:05.8 | mourning the loss of the Queen, that gave me, I think, for the first time an appreciation of the |
| 1:12.1 | value of a constitutional monarchy. At one point he quotes CS Lewis, who wrote, |
| 1:19.4 | were men are forbidden to honor a king. They honor millionaires, athletes, or film stars, |
| 1:26.0 | instead, even famous prostitutes or gangsters. For spiritual nature, like bodily nature, |
| 1:33.3 | will be served, denied food, and it will gobble poison. I disagree with Lewis about many things. |
| 1:40.8 | I've always thought his defense of Christianity was fairly visible. And I'm not even sure I agree |
| 1:47.4 | with this quotation entirely, but there's something interesting there. And Sullivan continues |
| 1:54.7 | writing, the crown represents something from the ancient past, a logically indefensible but |
| 2:00.6 | emotionally salient symbol of something called a nation, something that gives its members meaning |
| 2:07.1 | and happiness. However, shitty the economy or awful the prime minister or ugly the discourse, |
| 2:13.9 | the monarch is able to represent the nation all the time in a living, breathing, mortal person. |
| 2:21.8 | So anyway, this, as I said, gave me something to think about as though for the first time. |
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