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A Beautiful Mess Podcast

#296: Books That Changed How We See the World

A Beautiful Mess Podcast

Elsie Larson and Emma Chapman

Home & Garden, Leisure

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

This week we're talking about the books that genuinely shifted how we see the world — not just 5 star reads, but the ones that rewired our thinking and books we still find ourselves talking about years later.

 

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Elsie's books:

Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton

Station Eleven by Emily Sr. John Mandel

Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro

 

Emma's books:

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver

Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen

 

Nonfiction Bonus:

Elsie: Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert and Supercommunicators by Charles Duhigg

Emma: The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt

 

Book Report:

Elsie: The Astral Library by Kate Quinn

Emma: One Golden Summer by Carley Fortune

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Beautiful Mess podcast, your cozy comfort listen.

0:08.7

I'm your host, Emma Chapman.

0:10.0

And I'm your host, Alty Larson.

0:11.9

And this week, we're talking about the books that genuinely shifted how we see the world.

0:17.0

Not just five-star reads, not just books we love, but the ones that rewired our thinking and books that we still find ourselves talking about years later.

0:25.3

I love this episode so much.

0:28.6

So before we jump in, I have this, like, fun parisocial relationship story from this past week.

0:35.3

What is parasycial?

0:36.8

I don't even know what that means.

0:38.0

So parasycial relationship is the relationship that you have with someone you feel like you know, but they don't know you.

0:46.9

So like for me, my example, like I feel like Alice Hoffman is my best friend, but she, in fact, would not recognize me at the grocery store.

0:53.9

Okay. So kind of celebrities. So kind of being a fan girl. Right. And it mostly happens online. Uh-huh. Okay. So this is my funny story. It's so weird, but I kind of love it. So a couple weeks ago, I did this Instagram Q&A. You know, I love the Instagram Q&A. Emma's not on

1:12.1

Instagram anymore. So she didn't see any of this. I didn't. Okay. So I did the Q&A and I got like multiple

1:18.6

questions that were like, are you and Jeremy still married? Are you divorced? And I had gotten one the

1:24.1

time before. So I was like, oh my God. Like, because when you get one, it's like, who cares?

1:29.2

But when you start getting like, it's over and over, you're like, people are seeing something that I'm not putting out.

1:34.9

What's happening? So I was like, did I say something? Is it because I never remembered to wear my rings?

1:41.4

Is it because I literally never show a photo of him? But I feel like a lot of people

1:47.3

don't show a photo of their husband. Anyway, so I just put it out there like, why? Why? Why do people

1:54.1

think this? And I got like a thousand DMs. I've never gotten this many DMs. It was so, like,

1:59.9

I got where I couldn't read them all. And it, uh, people had all kinds of theories. What's the verdict? Yeah. There was a lot of theories. Many people, okay, so people who listened to the podcast were like, I would never think that because I listen to the podcast and you mention him. Right. So it's like obvious.

2:22.2

And then a lot of people were like, I was wondering the same thing.

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