What's Poppet, everybody, hello and welcome to popcorn culture.

My name is Ben Carlin, and I am your host here with me today's.

My brother Jay, who will be in every episode? I'm here, Ben, I have a question for you. All right, let it on me. Okay, this is a new phrase I came up with this morning. And I'm calling it universal shoving. Universal shoving. Yes. So, like, I'm thinking, like, by shoving, do you mean, like, like, shoving in line? Or, like, if you've got, like, a duffel bag that you need to, like, scoot further into, like, the boot of your vehicle, you, like, kind of shove it backwards? I mean, in a sense, you know, like not, not shoving in like the traditional sense of like, you know, pushing someone with extra malicious force or something like that.

Okay.

More like, more like, you know, like Barty Crouch Jr. was or Barty Crouch Sr. was destined to be minister, but then he had some political fallout and got, you know, shoved sideways

into the Department of International, you know, wizards.

Oh, okay. So, like, maybe it's like a situation where, okay, I'm trying to walk through

this now, like almost like circumstances beyond your control. It like, it doesn't have to be physical.

It's almost sort of like circumstances might like force something.

Right.

So then in the, in the essence of universalness, does that mean as pertaining to everyone?

Or does universal mean like the universe is shoving me towards an outcome?

Right. Yeah. That is exactly. Yes. Okay. Yes. towards an outcome. Right.

Yeah.

That is exactly it. Yes. Okay. Yes. That's it. Wow. Universal shoving. Okay. So everyone's probably experiencing their own version of what feels like universal shoving at times. Yeah. Yeah. Because my initial thought was kind of like I've seen you before, like when the t-shirt Canon comes out at like a

like a sporting event or something and they're

they're shooting them t-shirts up into the crowd. And I've seen you do some universal shoving.

Oh, well, that's, you know, that's, sure, that's more, that's more physical shoving.

Yes, yes.

I assume that that's where you were coming from.

No.

Um, okay. Although one could argue that the universe, like, is, is shoving me into those situations, you know?

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