The people that are saying that half of babies are tongue-tied or three-quarters of babies

of tongue-tied are people that are yanking up on the tongue and feeling the frenulum

which we know from Dr. Mills's research is normal behavior.

I think that there's a whole new crop of pediatricians who've had much more exposure to breastfeeding. And I find

that they are a little faster, a lot faster, to refer babies for evaluation for phrenotomy.

So I think the pendulum is swinging like it does for pretty much every medical procedure. Think

hysterectomy. Think tonsillectomy. Like everybody had it done. And then nobody had it done. And we need

to come back to the middle where we're doing it for the people who really need it.

I'm Cynthia Overgard, owner of hypnoborthing of Connecticut, childbirth advocate, and postpartum support

specialist.

And I'm Trescia Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board certified lactation consultant.

And this is the down-to-birth podcast.

Childbirth is something we're made to do, but how do we have our safest and

most satisfying experience in today's medical culture? Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.

Hi, I'm Catherine Watson, Jenna.

I'm a board-certified lactation consultant in private practice in New York City for the last 32 years.

And my special interest is in babies who are ill or have sucking problems.

And I'm very, very happy to be on the show today

and share some of my team's research and some of the really important information that we've

learned about tongue tie over the last years that I've been in this profession. Well, we are very,

very excited to have you on the show.

Tongtie seems to be the sucking problem of the day, and there is a lot of misinformation.

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