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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

295. A Conversation with Piers Morgan

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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Education, Science, Society & Culture

4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2022

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Dr. Peterson's extensive catalog is available now on DailyWire+: https://utm.io/ueSXh Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Piers Morgan discuss the art of interviewing, the importance of living truthfully, the pitfalls of sycophancy, and go into depth regarding the 2016 election, and the aftermath of Donald Trump. Piers Morgan is a British journalist and television personality who started his career working as a freelance writer for the Sun. Later he would be chosen by Rupert Murdock as editor for his publication, News of the World. This appointment would make Morgan the youngest British news editor (29) in more than fifty years. He would go on to be the editor of publications such as the Daily Mirror and MailOnline before ramping into a career on television. He would introduce documentaries for the BBC, and had a channel 4 political interview show with Amanda Platell, all before his stint as a judge on America’s Got Talent. Morgan would compete on and win the 2008 season of Celebrity Apprentice, and later famously interview the show's host, Donald Trump, after he had become the 45th US President. Morgan would work on numerous talk shows and documentary series before starting his current day production, Piers Morgan Uncensored. This show, on which controversial and celebrity guests debate Morgan, would be the first launched on talkTV, and welcome back President Trump for its premiere and second episodes. —Links— Dr. Jordan B. Peterson’s interview on Piers Morgan Uncensored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpnvGA-wJIE&t=1567s For Piers Morgan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/piersmorgan/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/piersmorgan Watch “Piers Morgan Uncensored” https://nation.foxnews.com/piers-morgan-uncensored/?cmpid=org=nat::ag=mediastorm::mc=cpc::src=google::cmp=brandpmax&utm_source=cpc&utm_medium=google&utm_campaign=brandpmax/&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4omaBhDqARIsADXULuXq8QDhaosLNOooBhEcCFwNZzHet8PBr-fSWz2E3X6SjcfTJlu0hmQaArkvEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds — Chapters — (0:00) Coming Up (1:17) Intro (4:47) Dynamics of Youtube (10:05) Art of the interview (15:53) The power of disagreeability (20:35) Volatile interviews, losing track (26:13) Adulation and changing focus (30:14) Tony Blair and the Iraq war (33:23) Queen Elizabeth, Mesopotamia (36:53) When you become your persona (42:03) Pinocchio, Elvis, and hedonism (46:08) The danger of sycophants (50:44) Subjective identity, punching down (54:25) Simon Cowell and AGT (1:01:13) Terry Fator, Susan Boyle; truly authentic (1:09:23) The value of actual judgment (1:19:05) President Donald Trump // SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL // Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/jordanbpeterson.co... Donations: https://jordanbpeterson.com/donate // COURSES // Discovering Personality: https://jordanbpeterson.com/personality Self Authoring Suite: https://selfauthoring.com Understand Myself (personality test): https://understandmyself.com // BOOKS // Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: https://jordanbpeterson.com/Beyond-Order 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: https://jordanbpeterson.com/12-rules-... Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: https://jordanbpeterson.com/maps-of-m... // LINKS // Website: https://jordanbpeterson.com Events: https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Blog: https://jordanbpeterson.com/blog Podcast: https://jordanbpeterson.com/podcast // SOCIAL // Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Instagram: https://instagram.com/jordan.b.peterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/drjordanpeterson Telegram: https://t.me/DrJordanPeterson All socials: https://linktr.ee/drjordanbpeterson #JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #DailyWirePlus #Psychology

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0:00.0

Hello everyone, I'm very pleased today to have with me Mr. Pierce Morgan. Mr. Morgan is an English

0:24.8

broadcaster, although he's well-known outside of the UK as well. He's a journalist, writer, and

0:31.5

TV personality. He began his career in the UK in 1988 at quite a young age at the Sun, the newspaper.

0:40.8

In 1994, 1994 at 29, he was appointed, News of the World Editor by Rupert Murdoch, the media mogul.

0:50.0

He was the youngest editor of a British National newspaper in more than 50 years. From 95 to 2004,

0:59.0

Pierce edited the Daily Mirror and then served as first news editorial director from 2006 to 2007.

1:07.4

On TV from 2009 to 21, Pierce hosted the ITV talk show, Life Stories, the CNN chat show,

1:17.5

Pierce Morgan Live from 2011 to 2014. The ITV breakfast program, Good Morning Britain from 2015 to

1:26.5

2021, and was a judge on both America's God Talent from 06 to 11, and Britain's God Talent from

1:35.7

07 to 2010. In 2008, he won the Celebrity Apprentice US appearing with future US President Donald Trump.

1:48.8

We're going to talk today about Pierce's career, about being a journalist and a celebrity as well,

1:54.9

about interacting with celebrities. But I think we're going to start with a brief discussion about

2:00.8

an interview that Pierce conducted with me in the UK a couple of weeks ago as of the taping date of

2:06.1

this interview and discussion. So it seems to have attracted a fair bit of positive attention,

2:14.3

I would say, perhaps for both of us. And what do you make of it?

2:20.0

Well, first of all, it showed me what my belief was before I interviewed you, which is that you are

2:25.1

an internet phenomenon in all guys' the attention that the interview attracted online was by our

2:34.4

standards of our fledgling show and network of six months or so absolutely staggering. In fact,

2:41.1

right up there with my first interview, which was Donald Trump. So I found that very interesting

2:47.1

to go into a world on YouTube in particular in which you are so dominant and so well known,

2:55.3

to see that an interview could be cut up in the way that we did it with various clips and see each

3:00.8

of them be watched by millions and millions of people. And I found that very interesting. It also

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